Agents of SHIELD: Season 3 - Discussion (SPOILERS LIKELY)

[kirk55555]

If they can recast Bruce Banner, they can recast Doc Samson. They could explain his powers in show. Maybe have him come in as some kind of consultant for Talbot, have a Gamma accident (maybe something vaguely like a device to fight inhumans or something that is powered by gamma radiation and becomes unstable) and there you go. He'd be a good super ally for Talbot, and anew powered psychiatrist could be interesting on the show. I really can't see them doing it (I doubt they'll ever use Samson, and if they did it would probably be a Hulk related scene in Avengers), but it would be pretty easy to do.

 

[Gryffindorian]

I realized something was off when Talbot revealed Creel was his bodyguard, but still I had the wrong notion that he had been recruited by Hydra.

Towards the end, it felt like there was a missing scene. Talbot was reunited with his kidnapped son (but at what point did that happen?) and Bobbi and Hunter were both away on a mission. I wish Daisy could teach me how to be calm and quiet my tumultuous anxious mind. It would probably involve many a quick roll in the sack.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I'm not sure what Coulson and company plan to do with Ward. It looks like Inhumans have no effect on him. Does SHIELD have any more nukes at their disposal?

I was thinking about what Lincoln said about Inhuman powers not being random, that powers come to fill a specific need. That got me thinking about Lash. He would actually seem to indicate the opposite of that. He is driven to specifically kill Inhumans. What need could he possibly fill? Perhaps the need to do away with an ancient genocidal Inhuman monster?

 

[Turtletrekker]

Towards the end, it felt like there was a missing scene. Talbot was reunited with his kidnapped son (but at what point did that happen?)

Talbot's son was in the gel cube in the back of the truck. We saw May go after the truck on her motorcycle, and then return driving the truck. The "missing scene" would be May capturing the truck.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

I really liked this episode. The new arc is shaping up to be very interesting, and I can't wait to finally see the secret warriors take shape (as well as figure out what Hive is planning).

The diplomatic conference was both hilarious and a little weird - how could the President choose this guy to be his representative to foreign powers on anything? It's like he didn't have the slightest filter between his brain and his mouth. And the fact that he was trying to guess who the bad guy was like he had the same skills as Coulson was extremely funny. I guess maybe chalk it up to nervous energy from the blackmail situation, or attempts to keep Coulson from noticing anything was wrong?

Also, why is Creel automatically bulletproof no matter what he absorbs? Bullets don't bounce off brick walls without even leaving a mark, and they don't bounce off rubber at all.

I was thinking about what Lincoln said about Inhuman powers not being random, that powers come to fill a specific need. That got me thinking about Lash. He would actually seem to indicate the opposite of that. He is driven to specifically kill Inhumans. What need could he possibly fill? Perhaps the need to do away with an ancient genocidal Inhuman monster?

Also, the need to cull the population so that the ancient inhuman monster can't control them all. And maybe to prevent Inhuman society from being dragged into the open due to hundreds of random, untrained Inhumans popping up everywhere.

 

[Booji]

Does ABC/Disney own "The Terminator" license now? If not, they might be getting a letter in the mail for ripping off music and lifting scenes from the original flick for the Ward scene at the end.

 

[Christopher]

Talbot's son was in the gel cube in the back of the truck. We saw May go after the truck on her motorcycle, and then return driving the truck. The "missing scene" would be May capturing the truck.

Which isn't a scene we need to see. After all, it's May. Of course she'll beat the bad guys -- that's a given. So there's no mystery.

The diplomatic conference was both hilarious and a little weird - how could the President choose this guy to be his representative to foreign powers on anything? It's like he didn't have the slightest filter between his brain and his mouth.

Maybe it's an "only Nixon could go to China" situation. Given Talbot's history hunting down Hydra corruption within SHIELD, maybe President Ellis thought he'd be a good counterbalance to Coulson's (still technically illegal) SHIELD operation, a check on their power.

Also, why is Creel automatically bulletproof no matter what he absorbs? Bullets don't bounce off brick walls without even leaving a mark, and they don't bounce off rubber at all.

On the other hand, wouldn't any body part of his that was struck by a bullet immediately turn into an equivalent metal? So it'd be like a bullet striking another bullet.

 

[sojourner]

The diplomatic conference was both hilarious and a little weird - how could the President choose this guy to be his representative to foreign powers on anything? It's like he didn't have the slightest filter between his brain and his mouth.

Think about it in hindsight. Talbot was there under Hydra's coercion. He may have been trying in his own way to throw the conference.

 

[Jono]

I thought the countries represented at the summit were odd. USA, Russia and Japan I get. They are major economic and military leaders, but Taiwan, Australia and random African country seems like odd choices for a group that seemed to be deciding on a global direction in dealing with Inhumans.

 

[shapeshifter]

So Hydra, aka the thing inhabiting dead Ward, really is a tentacled creature like an octopus!

 

[bbjeg]

...random African country...

Black Panther and the Wakanda are going to play a big role in the not too distant future (Wakanda was mentioned in Age of Ultron as the only location that had vibranium, and a vial was worth "billions"). I don't think it was that random.

 

[Christopher]

So Hydra, aka the thing inhabiting dead Ward, really is a tentacled creature like an octopus!

Its name is Hive, actually.

 

[shapeshifter]

Oh yeah, thanks. Hydra is the organisation it leads or founded?

 

[Christopher]

Hydra is the organization, yes. It's named for the many-headed serpent from Greek myth, which re-grew two heads for every one that was severed. This is meant to indicate that Hydra can never be destroyed because it has "heads" everywhere. Which is a handy trait for a bad-guy organization in series fiction, because it means they can keep coming back no matter how often the heroes triump over them. (Although it makes it rather odd that their logo depicts a creature with multiple arms rather than multiple heads.)

 

[Arrrrgggh]

Oh yeah, thanks. Hydra is the organisation it leads or founded?

Unknown. Myths of the Hydra may have arisen from him, or his cult might have adopted the name from mythology instead. We don't really know how far back either Hive's or Hydra's origins actually go, other than its much older than originally believed.

 

[Kemaiku]

It may be one of those "by many names" beings that is called something akin to it's nature in different cultures, and one happens to stick at one point in history. Maybe when "Hydra" largely consolidated and where able to offer sacrifices on a regular basis.

Which would luckily seem to line up with Hive having eaten the Nine cities of...whereever that was.

 

[cylkoth]

Malick gave Ward the creature's backstory several episodes ago-in Maveth, I believe. It's an Inhuman, created by the Kree, which grew so powerful/threatening, the other In-nys joined forces and managed to banish from Earth.

 

[Turtletrekker]

So Hydra, aka the thing inhabiting dead Ward, really is a tentacled creature like an octopus!

Per its appearance in the comics.

Hive is another Secret Warriors connection, albeit with a radically different origin.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

is the name Hive meant to be a literal description?
It was strongly implied he took control of the inhuman with the stun eyes.
So consume humans, control inhumans through a hive mind.

 

[Reverend]

So Hydra, aka the thing inhabiting dead Ward, really is a tentacled creature like an octopus!

I think "a" tentacle is all there is to it. Like a cross between a leech and an eel. Pretty radical mutation if this really is just a really powerful Inhuman. All of the others we've known about to date still basically have a human anatomy.

Mind you, I think the concept is that the thing can multiply and spread it's consciousness across several hosts so those tentacles are still more or less symbolic. That said the whole "cut off one head, two more shall take it's place" thing may turn out to be very literal in this case.