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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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They may be thinking that the footage shot in October at the STNV studios was intended to be part of the Axanar motion picture. The short vignette "Heroes"--showing a rehabilitated Garth--was intended to be a standalone production, not intended to be incorporated into the larger film--just as Prelude to Axanar was itself a standalone production.

I'm not sure if, since it is intended to be a standalone work, it is not therefore one of the two previously-identified "Axanar Works." Perhaps the other works where Alec Peters portrays Captain Kelvar Garth (STNV's "Origins," STNVs "Going Boldly" vignette, and this joint Axanar/STNV production "Heroes") have simply escaped C/P's detection as plausibly additional "Axanar Works."

Greg, do you happen to have the shoot dates for Peters' filming on the NV sets? Specifically, for "Origins," "Going Boldly" and "Heroes"? I wasn't clear if the first two were shot simultaneously; I know the third was shot just last fall. I want to update the Axanar Timeline on AxaMonitor with actual dates. Thanks!
 
... might easily have pushed them to needing another $1 million. Even in the fantasy world where Axanar won the right to produce this movie, that's a pretty steep hill to climb now that its brand is likely toxic in the worlds of film production and crowdfunding.

realistically they probably don't NEED as much money as they have, and if they had proceeded straight to a settlement, they might still have a budget to make a different film. Of course, the question then would be how many of the staff would stick around not because they want to do Trek, but because they want to work with the management of the studio.
 
Alec & Co have been uncharacteristically quiet this weekend since the amended complaint is becoming common knowledge. I think several Axanar people are realizing they are Does and will be jumping ship leaving Alec all by his lonesome.
 
Alec & Co have been uncharacteristically quiet this weekend since the amended complaint is becoming common knowledge. I think several Axanar people are realizing they are Does and will be jumping ship leaving Alec all by his lonesome.

I have video footage of the Axanar staff abandoning ship

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Greg, do you happen to have the shoot dates for Peters' filming on the NV sets? Specifically, for "Origins," "Going Boldly" and "Heroes"? I wasn't clear if the first two were shot simultaneously; I know the third was shot just last fall. I want to update the Axanar Timeline on AxaMonitor with actual dates. Thanks!

"Origins: The Protracted Man"--with Captain Garth peeking in on Cadet James Kirk taking his Kobayashi Maru test--was shot in June of 2010--before Alec Peters had embarked on any of his own independent Axanar productions. (Efforts are underway to get this episode finished up even these six years later.)
The "Going Boldly" vignette was shot in June of 2012 in conjunction with our "Bread and Savagery" episode; it also salvaged some footage that we shot in June of 2011 for our aborted version of "Mind-Sifter." Lastly, some STNV cast and crew got together in conjunction with the Axanar Productions team to shoot the Axanar vignette "Heroes" in October of 2015.
 
Well, none of us have fool-proof crystal balls here, and C/P have been virtually silent on this matter beyond what is stated in the original complaint (which will be obsolete once they file the expected amended complaint.) So I will admit that your guess as to how things will turn out is as good as mine. But that being said, I don’t see a great likelihood of C/P demanding return of donor money for two reasons:

1. As I stated before - relations between Axanar and its donors is not C/P’s concern. I think that C/P’s goal remains, and has always been, just to shut down Axanar as a “Star Trek” product. This is borne out by their initial complaint - which frankly seemed a bit half-hearted as it was most likely filed with the expectation that AP would fold without a fight. Now that Axanar has put up a fight, C/P may dig in and drop a carload of claims on them - but, again, to get the point across of “we’re serious, don’t mess with C/P”, not to decimate everyone involved for the sheer “wrath of God” joy of it.

2. I think we all overvalue what C/P would be able to recover from a jury if it won every copyright claim at trial - and that has a real bearing on what C/P could demand of Axanar in a settlement. The Copyright Act measure of damages is “plaintiff’s profits attributable to the infringement plus damages actually suffered by defendant.” (More on that second part later) Even though it’s clear that most donations and costs of goods (coffee) sold (“revenue”) are attributable to the infringement (everyone donated because of the ST connection, probably the same for the coffee), the “revenue” is not the same as the “profits attributable to the infringement”. The law specifically permits the defendant to deduct from revenue expenses of production/cost of goods (and other GAAP amounts), along with any revenue amounts that are attributable to factors other than the infringing goods themselves. (17 USC Sec. 504(b) - “In establishing the infringer's profits, the copyright owner is required to present proof only of the infringer's gross revenue, and the infringer is required to prove his or her deductible expenses and ... profit attributable to factors other than the copyrighted work.”

(Simple example - I make counterfeit DVDs of ST movies - it costs me $5 per DVD to make the copies and $1 per copy to ship them, and I charge $8 per copy. My revenue is $8/copy - but the law allows me to deduct my $6 in copying and shipping costs to arrive at the $2 profit I made. Plaintiff gets $2 per copy - the profit attributable to the infringement.)

So while we may “see” revenue (donations) of $1.5 million, C/P is probably not entitled to recover $1.5 million. They are basically entitled to recover whatever is left over after Axanar makes all deductions from revenue permitted by law (such as money spend on production to date, costs of the coffee and packaging, creation of models, and other allocable expenses.) And so what leverage does C/P have to force Axanar to pay back 100% of the donations if Axanar knows C/P would only get a fraction of that from the court if Axanar simply refused to settle?

As to the other possible amounts of recovery :

Actual damages” - I don’t see any other “actual damages” C/P has suffered - they are pissed at Axnar, but haven’t been hurt by Axanar, other than the cost of attorneys. So I think this adds “zero” to money that would give leverage to force Axanar to give money back to donors.

Attorneys fees” - the Copyright Act says that fees “may” be awarded, not “must” be awarded, so it is within the discretion of the judge. But C/P would keep any attorneys’ fees awarded, not tell Axanar “nah, don’t pay us, give it back to the donors instead. So I also think this adds “zero” to money that would give leverage to force Axanar to give money back to donors.

Statutory damages” - a real wildcard, as the court can award as little as $100 per infringed work up to $150,000 per infringed work, or anywhere in between. But I don’t see statutory damages being on the high end of the scale here - the max amount is usually reserved for literal copying of a whole work, not “taking one small piece from this work (a character from one episode), and one piece from this other work (a ship design shown onscreen for 2 minutes out of a 48 minute show). Though the copying across multiple works was immense here in the aggregate, a judge could find the amount copied from any individual work was arguably small on a “per infringed work” basis and award correspondingly low statutory damages. So I don’t think statutory damages is going to “raise the pot” so much higher that C/P suddenly has leverage to say “settle and give $1.5 million back to the donors or you will be liable to us for much more”

And even if C/P could get the max statutory damages - why does anyone think they would tell AP to give it back to the donors rather than keep it themselves?
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Hey - please know that everything I say here is meant in a “friendly discussion” tone - I’m not trying to “school ya” or prove you wrong, because my crystal ball is no better or worse than yours and time may prove you 100% right and me wrong. But based on my experience with the law and the claims C/P has raised to date, I just can’t personally get behind the theory that C/P is going to do anything that would put much - if any - of the donor’s money back in their hands. Donors need to be realistic about this and start looking into their own rights to get that money back.

M


For donors who wish to lodge a complaint to the AG of California follow this link and you can fill out a form to have the Attorney General of California investigate your claim: http://ag.ca.gov/consumers/general.htm
 
So... how long do you guys think it'll be before people start jumping ship from the Axanar idiocracy over at Ares Studios*?


*Not a studio. Is a studio. Not a studio. Is a studio. Nobody there knows what a studio is. Or isn't.

Three weeks next Tuesday...
 
The Akira-class predates the Titan by about a decade. We first saw an Akira in Star Trek: First Contact. The Titan design was revealed in 2004.

Yes the Akira pre-dates my Titan, but I did not copy the Akira. the contest stated that the Titan needed to look like it could fit right into the fleet. So As I was designing the Titan for the contest I looked at many ships and tried to incorporate many design element from many ships in the fleet. The contest stated that it needed to fit between the Ent-D and Voyager, but was mothballed. so I figured by the Time the Lune was being built that the Akira could be being developed as well. I added the catamarans to be the anchor for the Pod pylons. I decided to add the Ent-F escape pods verses the Ent D era pods. (so I was following the design contest rules by incorporating different aspects of different designs into the Titan's design)
 
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*Not a studio. Is a studio. Not a studio. Is a studio. Nobody there knows what a studio is. Or isn't.

Ahhh... the LeBron defense...

LeBron James is walking back his suggestion that the Minnesota Timberwolves and New Jersey Nets be contracted from the NBA. His recommendation followed remarks that the league's talent was "watered down."

"That's crazy," James said after the Miami Heat's practice Monday, "because I had no idea what the word 'contraction' meant before I saw it on the Internet."
 
One other quote from 1701's interview that sticks out to me:

Whether or not it violates what Peters said was CBS' directive to not make money, one of the larger criticisms coming from fans was the fact that Peters revealed he collected a $38,000 salary from the "Axanar" crowdfunding. However, Peters defended that move.

"I'm not volunteering my time," he said. "I can't do this for free. If I make minimum wage, I'm lucky. The fans who donate? They understand. They don't have any problem with me paying myself."

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I read the amended complaint last night -- thanks to whomever provided the link -- and it was fascinating reading. It makes me very curious who the Does are.

The amended complaint also prompted me to do something I'd never done, which is watch Prelude to Axanar. I don't generally watch fanfilms. I think I've seen all of one episode of New Voyages.

I was impressed with the production values. Some of the directing choices -- like conducting many of the interviews in profile -- were questionable. For what his role asked for, I felt Alec Peters was credible.

I felt the story as told had some problems. I wanted more explanation of this horrible Klingon battle tactic. Vulcan as an impartial mediator between the Federation and the Empire didn't make a lot of sense to me; Vulcan's part of the Federation, not Switzerland. I didn't find the Klingon's presence in the documentary credible. And the revelation that the war-fueled arms race between the Klingons and the Federation led to the development of the Constitution-class owed more to Star Fleet Battles than Roddenberry's Star Trek.

That said, I generally enjoyed it. I would have been more interested in seeing the documentary finished than a Tora! Tora! Tora!-style Star Trek war movie.
 
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So... how long do you guys think it'll be before people start jumping ship from the Axanar idiocracy over at Ares Studios*?


*Not a studio. Is a studio. Not a studio. Is a studio. Nobody there knows what a studio is. Or isn't.

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realistically they probably don't NEED as much money as they have, and if they had proceeded straight to a settlement, they might still have a budget to make a different film. Of course, the question then would be how many of the staff would stick around not because they want to do Trek, but because they want to work with the management of the studio.
Realistically, I don't expect them to understand how to make the movie they know how to make without more money. They don't seem like the budget-cutting type.
 
I read the amended complaint last night -- thanks to whomever provided the link -- and it was fascinating reading. It makes me very curious who the Does are.

The amended complaint also prompted me to do something I'd never done, which is watch Prelude to Axanar. I don't generally watch fanfilms. I think I've seen all of one episode of New Voyages.

I was impressed with the production values. Some of the directing choices -- like conducting many of the interviews in profile -- were questionable. For what his role asked for, I felt Alec Peters was credible.

I felt the story as told had some problems. I wanted more explanation of this horrible Klingon battle tactic. Vulcan as an impartial mediator between the Federation and the Empire didn't make a lot of sense to me; Vulcan's part of the Federation, not Switzerland. I didn't find the Klingon's presence in the documentary credible. And the revelation that the war-fueled arms race between the Klingons and the Federation led to the development of the Constitution-class owed more to Star Fleet Battles than Roddenberry's Star Trek.

That said, I generally enjoyed it. I would have been more interested in seeing the documentary finished than a Tora! Tora! Tora!-style Star Trek war movie.
I liked the documentary aspect as well, and thought that was a bit of something new. However, I'd say Peters and company were more fixated on carving out a little Axanarverse to play in, rather than thinking of it as a one-off story.
 
Of course, we talked Axa (man oh man you get to hear a lot of my dulcet tones).

Blog post and YouTube will be up later today. My own blog about the amended complaint is slated for tomorrow.

Today's episode will be called either Careful What You Wish For or Semantic Shenanigans. We may flip a coin. Thank you, as always, for your kind support.
 
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