*Potential Spoilers* What will the Alternate Enterprise-A look like

[Terok Nor]

Robert April's Enterprise? Is the one from the JJ movies supposed to be the Enterprise-A already? I'm confused. I thought it was just the alternate reality version of the Enteprise from TOS?

It looks like the saucer crash lands on a planet. Knowing the JJVerse they'll just attach new parts to the saucer and it'll still be the same ship in the next movie.

The Enterprise in the Prime universe was a legendary ship due to all it accomplished. The one from the JJVerse hasn't done much yet so it would be a bit odd to continue the lineage at this point.

 

[MadMan1701A]

Can't pass up a chance to show off Challenger and Endeavor.

 

[TheSubCommander]

Robert April's Enterprise? Is the one from the JJ movies supposed to be the Enterprise-A already? I'm confused. I thought it was just the alternate reality version of the Enteprise from TOS?

Yeah it's confusing to me, too, but apparently in the alt universe, there is an Enterprise in between the NX-01 and the Alt NCC-1701...at least in the comic that preceded STID. Robert April commanded that Enterprise starting some 20 years prior. http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(alternate_reality_2230s)

So I guess from a certain point of view, the JJ Enterprise is an Enterprise-A. Then again, April's enterprise only appears in that one-off comic, and is never mentioned on screen, so it's not really canon.

It looks like the saucer crash lands on a planet. Knowing the JJVerse they'll just attach new parts to the saucer and it'll still be the same ship in the next movie.

If they do that, it would basically be what I felt Generations should have done with the Enterprise-D at the time they destroyed it. I was a bit disappointed at first, because I thought that was going to give us the AGT Enterprise for FC.

The Enterprise in the Prime universe was a legendary ship due to all it accomplished. The one from the JJVerse hasn't done much yet so it would be a bit odd to continue the lineage at this point.

This is true. Unlike the original NCC-1701, which had 3 seasons of TOS, a season of TAS, 3 movies, countless books, comics, record books, etc, and the fact that we have seen a virtual fleet of Enterprises since TSFS. SO blowing up an Enterprise is almost common place, these days. All the current Enterprise has is 2 full movies, so it's almost expected to be destroyed at this point.

Can't pass up a chance to show off Challenger and Endeavor.

Awesome! I would be fine with either of those as the new Enterprise-A!

 

[M'Sharak]

http://orig06.deviantart.net/193c/f...ise_ncc_1701_refit_by_marksman104-d6mh6td.png

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I like this version, who created it?

The name of the artist is contained within the image URL: "Marksman104". His deviantArt page for the image is here.

A word of advice, though: when I've just had to go through the OP's post earlier in the day and remove the IMG tags from all of the images because every single one of them was hotlinked from other people's websites*, what you shouldn't do is to take one of them and post it again as an embedded image without first properly hosting it on your own web space or image-sharing account.

* (not in accordance with TrekBBS policy concerning the posting of images - using someone else's bandwidth to post images here is considered poor form, and we discourage it.)

 

[Dukhat]

This would be much more of a problem if they were still building physical models. That's why the Enterprise-A in TVH looked just like the previous Enterprise - they had no time or money to build a new model that would only appear on the screen for five seconds. But with CGI, there's no such budget or time limitations.

I'm hoping that there will in fact be a replacement Enterprise built (whether it's called the Enterprise-A or not is irrelevant to me), and I also hope that it will look completely different from the nuEnterprise, because I hate the nuEnterprise.

 

[F. King Daniel]

There's a scene shot in Dubai that pics were released of, showing...

Spoiler: Star Trek Beyond

the crew in civvies, celebrating, sipping drinks and looking up at something. I suspect it's the new Enterprise being built on Yorktown base. One wonders if the final shot of the movie will be a pan up from them smiling to a saucer looming overhead, with "ENTERPRISE NCC-1701-A" written across the underside. but shot at such an angle the rest of the design is left unseen for reveal in ST4 (should there be an ST4)

 

[MarsWeeps]

A word of advice, though: when I've just had to go through the OP's post earlier in the day and remove the IMG tags from all of the images because every single one of them was hotlinked from other people's websites*, what you shouldn't do is to take one of them and post it again as an embedded image without first properly hosting it on your own web space or image-sharing account.

Sorry about that. What happened was I quoted him before you removed the IMG tags and had saved it as a draft on my iPad without sending it. I then came back at a later time, saw the draft sitting there and finished it up. I'll be sure to double check things next time before I post.

 

[The Wormhole]

Robert April's Enterprise? Is the one from the JJ movies supposed to be the Enterprise-A already? I'm confused. I thought it was just the alternate reality version of the Enteprise from TOS?

And that's exactly what it is, the TOS Enterprise in an alternate timeline. If it were the Enterprise A its registry would be NCC-1701-A.

Admittedly, the issue is a bit muddled by the fact that the comics show April's Enterprise also with the registry NCC-1701. But, I'll gladly ignore this as one of IDW's infamous art screw-ups. Only a few months earlier they showed the Abrams Enterprise with TMP style nacelles and the registry NCC-1701-D. And don't even get me started on how often 24th century LCARS computer displays show up in the comics, even on alien ships.

 

[Saul]

If we do get a new Enterprise I hope it's different enough to feel new. A new Enterprise should be exciting and fresh in it's design like each new Batmobile.

There's a scene shot in Dubai that pics were released of, showing...

Spoiler: Star Trek Beyond

the crew in civvies, celebrating, sipping drinks and looking up at something. I suspect it's the new Enterprise being built on Yorktown base.

I thought that takes place at the beginning of the movie.

 

[Dukhat]

Admittedly, the issue is a bit muddled by the fact that the comics show April's Enterprise also with the registry NCC-1701. But, I'll gladly ignore this as one of IDW's infamous art screw-ups. Only a few months earlier they showed the Abrams Enterprise with TMP style nacelles and the registry NCC-1701-D. And don't even get me started on how often 24th century LCARS computer displays show up in the comics, even on alien ships.

Yes. No one should take what is seen in comics or other movie tie-ins as any sort of proof for anything.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

This would be much more of a problem if they were still building physical models. That's why the Enterprise-A in TVH looked just like the previous Enterprise - they had no time or money to build a new model that would only appear on the screen for five seconds.

Well, they did have a new model built -- the Excelsior. Re-stencil the name to Enterprise and the registry to 1701-A. To this day, it perplexes me why they didn't go that route.

 

[peteym5]

This is all assuming the Enterprise is destroyed or damaged beyond repair in Star Trek Beyond. It could be another Star Ship. After all the trailer for Star Trek into Darkness, you were lead to believe the Enterprise was being destroyed in that movie as well. Of course with the Trek technology, they could easily recover all the pieces of the Enterprise and just repair and put it back together so we have the Enterprise for the next movie.

I am still trying to figure out what is going on with that entry and trailer for "Star Trek 4"/"Star Trek Call of Fleets" on the IMDB. JJ Abrams and Bad Robot are most likely still going to make movies. I have a theory that this Samurai Media Mainframe company could had just been hired to make a teaser trailer. There had been rumors that Paramount/Bad Robot have to start the production for the next movie as soon as Star Trek Beyond is complete. Something about actors contracts and availability. However I had not seen any reports as to the writers or other people involved.

I personally think they could make an exciting movie by again taking material from another original episode like "The Ultimate Computer". There had been numerous movies done with computer systems going amok in recent years. TV episodes and new incarnations of Star Trek also had computers becoming hostile.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Look, don't get me wrong, I'd love to find out that the Enterprise isn't destroyed in STB, but I don't see how that trailer could possibly leave any room for doubt on that point. It just seems obvious that the ship is in fact destroyed. We see it happen right in front of us!

And while I'm not at all familiar with Justin Lin's work, somehow I doubt he has much tolerance for time travel shenanigans (nor would JJ Abrams if he'd still been directing it), so I doubt there'll be a reset button.

 

[The Wormhole]

This is all assuming the Enterprise is destroyed or damaged beyond repair in Star Trek Beyond. It could be another Star Ship.

No, it's definitely the Enterprise. Pause the trailer at the 20 second mark. You can clearly see 1701 on the hull.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

No, it's definitely the Enterprise. Pause the trailer at the 20 second mark. You can clearly see 1701 on the hull.

Plus all of the Enterprise crew is ejecting from this ship in escape pods (Kirk and Scotty in the trailer, Sulu in the Entertainment Tonight clips, etc....).

 

[Dukhat]

Well, they did have a new model built -- the Excelsior. Re-stencil the name to Enterprise and the registry to 1701-A. To this day, it perplexes me why they didn't go that route.

The reason why they didn't go with the Excelsior model as the Enterprise-A can be seen right on the screen. Scotty berates the ship to Sulu, and his berating echoes the feelings of the audience. Star Trek fans, like Scotty, are supposed to hate that ship. They look to be flying right for it in an "uh oh" moment, but then at the last second they veer away and the majestic Constitution class ship is seen. Seeing yet another Excelsior class when Scotty just got finished bad-mouthing the prototype would have made no sense. It was the best choice as a visual perspective if not a real-life perspective.

Of course with the Trek technology, they could easily recover all the pieces of the Enterprise and just repair and put it back together so we have the Enterprise for the next movie.

But then that becomes a cop-out. Every time the ship looks like it's blasted to pieces and yet comes back looking brand new just strains suspension of disbelief to the breaking point no matter what futuristic technology could do. It totally negates any dramatic impact of the ship getting destroyed. Besides, they already did that almost every week with Star Trek Voyager.

 

[STEPhon IT]

Well, they did have a new model built -- the Excelsior. Re-stencil the name to Enterprise and the registry to 1701-A. To this day, it perplexes me why they didn't go that route.

Because Leonard Nimoy, as director, overruled producer Harve Bennett on that and many other issues going on during the production of The Voyage Home. The constant ego clashing, while Nimoy won every battle destroyed their relationship. I am glad he did it because the Excelsior was too ugly to be the replacement for the Enterprise.
Also, the moment Nimoy created by the end of the movie for Kirk's crew while they were coasting through Space dock... the shuttle blows past the ugly Excelsior and heads to the Enterprise... which was the Enterprise.
The line from Kirk, "My friends... we've come home." Capitalized on the moment.
Now how would that moment be if it was the Excelsior class ship branded the name Enterprise NCC 1701 - B???

 

[MarsWeeps]

This is all assuming the Enterprise is destroyed or damaged beyond repair in Star Trek Beyond. It could be another Star Ship. After all the trailer for Star Trek into Darkness, you were lead to believe the Enterprise was being destroyed in that movie as well.

Not true. As soon as the trailer came out, it was determined that it was a totally different ship just by freezing the trailer and seeing that the nacelles were different than those on the Enterprise.

I personally think they could make an exciting movie by again taking material from another original episode

Oh, please...NO! The whole point of the reboot was to do new things that weren't tied to the original timeline's continuity/canon. Give us something new!

 

[Timo]

Admittedly, the issue is a bit muddled by the fact that the comics show April's Enterprise also with the registry NCC-1701.

Umm, the comics don't show April's Enterprise. They just talk about her.

The two pictures at the start of this thread are clearly of Kirk's Enterprise, and are perfectly identical to all the other depictions of Kirk's ship elsewhere in the comic. There is no story logic in the comic that would suggest April's ship should be shown at those particular panels of the page. On the other hand, the story is punctuated by "gratuitous" or "establishing" shots of Kirk's ship in orbit just like any episode of Star Trek would. There's one past-tense shot from inside April's bridge (quite distinct from Kirk's bridge), and that's it.

So naturally all the ships in the comic have NCC-1701 as the registry. We have no idea what the registry of April's ship was.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Saul]

Umm, the comics don't show April's Enterprise. They just talk about her.

The two pictures at the start of this thread are clearly of Kirk's Enterprise, and are perfectly identical to all the other depictions of Kirk's ship elsewhere in the comic. There is no story logic in the comic that would suggest April's ship should be shown at those particular panels of the page.

Timo Saloniemi

Eh? really? I never read that comic but had thought all along from reports on the web and at trek BBS that it was April's Ship and was a flashback of some kind.