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My god! Bryan Fuller is sending all the right signals about Trek!

Since Roddeberry and Kurtzman are probably just handling the business side of the show, I don't see any reason they couldn't bring in another person to add to the creative side. Most shows have dozens of writers and producers, so there's no reason to think one more would hurt things.
 
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Since Roddeberry and Kurtzman are probably just handling the business side of the show, I don't see any reason they couldn't bring in another person to add to the creative side. Most shows have dozens of writers and producers, so there's no reason to think one more would hurt things.

Well, of course they're going to bring in more writing staffers -- that's a given. But the staff already includes Fuller and Meyer, so they don't need any more showrunner-level executives. Fuller is the head of the writers' room, and presumably Meyer will be in the role of the experienced veteran who's second-in-command to the showrunner (although Meyer's experience is more in movies than TV, so I dunno), so from this point on, they'd want to fill in the more junior positions on the staff. There might be room for one more person with showrunner experience like Jane Espenson, say, but mostly it'd probably be younger, up-and-coming writers and producers from this point on.

Anyway, Kurtzman's role will be creative, no doubt -- he'll co-create the show with Fuller, possibly co-write the pilot, then step back and just supervise and give notes on the creative process as his schedule permits. I would assume Heather Kadin, Kurtzman's partner in Secret Hideout Productions, is the person who'll handle the business side of the operation.

As for Roddenberry, I'm inclined to suspect he's there mainly for name recognition. He'll probably have basically a consulting role, offering notes on how well the ideas and scripts fit his understanding of the Roddenberry vision/legacy/etc., but he'll just be one of multiple executives giving notes.
 
I'd really like to see Seth MacFarlane added to Fuller/Meyer/Roddenberry/Kurtzman (though too many cooks?), that could be very interesting!!

I would really be interested to see Seth MacFarlane as a producer/writer - but we now have like 5 producers, so I dunno if it would be too many hands or what.
 
I would really be interested to see Seth MacFarlane as a producer/writer - but we now have like 5 producers, so I dunno if it would be too many hands or what.

Most shows these days have a lot more producers than that. In the writing staff alone, you've got several tiers of writer-producers: executive producer, co-executive producer, supervising producer, producer, co-producer, story editor. Then you've got the various executive producers who run the production company/ies making the show or who are on board as financial partners. Then you've got the executive producer, line producers, associate producers, and unit production managers who handle the actual physical and logistical process of turning the scripts into episodes -- the budgeting, casting, design, building, filming, post-production, etc. Often you have separate producers specifically for the visual effects company/ies. Then there are consulting producers or executive consultants, which are usually former creators or producers who've moved on from the show but are kept in the loop in an advisory capacity, or just veterans who get paid to advise the production staff.

So at this point, only the bare bones of the show's staff has been assembled. Kurtzman and Kadin are the executives in charge of the production company making the show. Roddenberry and Trevor Roth are also production partners on an executive level. Fuller is the co-creator and showrunner. Meyer is listed as a consulting producer -- which means he's less directly involved in the process than I thought, serving more as a senior advisor to Fuller rather than someone who'll be in the writers' room day to day. That actually makes a lot more sense, given that he has so little TV-producing experience.

So that means I was wrong when I said above that they didn't have room for any more top-level writing executives. We only have one real writing-staff member announced so far, the showrunner, meaning there are at least a half-dozen openings there (all the writing staff producer tiers I listed above plus staff writer, and maybe a second EP to be Fuller's second-in-command). And aside from Heather Kadin, nobody on the logistics side of the production has been announced yet, nobody who'll be responsible for the physical process of making the show.

As for MacFarlane, it seems to me that he's too senior a production executive at this point to be able to contribute hands-on to a single show. He's more on the level of Kurtzman or Abrams or Greg Berlanti, the executive of a production company that has a lot of different irons in the fire at once. The show already has an executive on that level in Kurtzman, and perhaps in Roddenberry as well. More execs on that level just means more notes being handed down to the writing staff, and that just clutters the process. What it needs are more staffers who'll actually be there in the writers' room, who'll be players on the team rather than senior management.
 
Maybe they could just bring him in once and a while to write an episode or two a season. I honestly forgot about how much of Trekkie is was until it was mentioned up thread, but now that I have I would love to see what an actual Trek episode written by him would be like.
 
Most shows these days have a lot more producers than that. In the writing staff alone, you've got several tiers of writer-producers: executive producer, co-executive producer, supervising producer, producer, co-producer, story editor. Then you've got the various executive producers who run the production company/ies making the show or who are on board as financial partners. Then you've got the executive producer, line producers, associate producers, and unit production managers who handle the actual physical and logistical process of turning the scripts into episodes -- the budgeting, casting, design, building, filming, post-production, etc. Often you have separate producers specifically for the visual effects company/ies. Then there are consulting producers or executive consultants, which are usually former creators or producers who've moved on from the show but are kept in the loop in an advisory capacity, or just veterans who get paid to advise the production staff.

So at this point, only the bare bones of the show's staff has been assembled. Kurtzman and Kadin are the executives in charge of the production company making the show. Roddenberry and Trevor Roth are also production partners on an executive level. Fuller is the co-creator and showrunner. Meyer is listed as a consulting producer -- which means he's less directly involved in the process than I thought, serving more as a senior advisor to Fuller rather than someone who'll be in the writers' room day to day. That actually makes a lot more sense, given that he has so little TV-producing experience.

So that means I was wrong when I said above that they didn't have room for any more top-level writing executives. We only have one real writing-staff member announced so far, the showrunner, meaning there are at least a half-dozen openings there (all the writing staff producer tiers I listed above plus staff writer, and maybe a second EP to be Fuller's second-in-command). And aside from Heather Kadin, nobody on the logistics side of the production has been announced yet, nobody who'll be responsible for the physical process of making the show.

As for MacFarlane, it seems to me that he's too senior a production executive at this point to be able to contribute hands-on to a single show. He's more on the level of Kurtzman or Abrams or Greg Berlanti, the executive of a production company that has a lot of different irons in the fire at once. The show already has an executive on that level in Kurtzman, and perhaps in Roddenberry as well. More execs on that level just means more notes being handed down to the writing staff, and that just clutters the process. What it needs are more staffers who'll actually be there in the writers' room, who'll be players on the team rather than senior management.

Would those more junior people be announced like Roddenberry or Meyer? Or would they just be signed and start working with no confirmation until we see writing credits for episodes?
 
Would those more junior people be announced like Roddenberry or Meyer? Or would they just be signed and start working with no confirmation until we see writing credits for episodes?

Oh, I'm sure most would be announced on the Trek news boards if nothing more. Certainly the major hires would be, for instance if someone like Jane Espenson or Doug Petrie signed on as Fuller's right-hand person. This show will get a lot of attention, so I'm sure there will be a fair amount of coverage. And I'm sure the credit list on IMDb will continue to expand as new talent signs on.
 
Fuller is the head of the writers' room, and presumably Meyer will be in the role of the experienced veteran who's second-in-command to the showrunner (although Meyer's experience is more in movies than TV, so I dunno), so from this point on, they'd want to fill in the more junior positions on the staff. There might be room for one more person with showrunner experience like Jane Espenson, say, but mostly it'd probably be younger, up-and-coming writers and producers from this point on.
Doubtless there are a lot of writers trying to get hold of Fuller's phone number right now.
 
Seth McFarlane joining the show would seal the deal on this being a legitimately perfect crew for a new Trek series.

I'm already delighted with how it looks now. Can't wait to get a first look at things.
 
Though I have been very pleased with the announcement that Star Trek would return I am somewhat skeptical of the involvement of Rod Roddenberry. His father arguably lost his touch during the production of The Motion Picture and TNG. I won't repeat what happened, but if Rod is here for just his name recognition and to smooth things over with Gene's estate isn't there a risk history could repeat itself? Why take the risk in the first place. I am sad to say that I think the legacy of Gene Roddenberry may not be known to as large an audience as some may think. I personally remember Gene for TOS, Earth and Andromeda while most people may know who Captain Kirk is and seen a few TOS episode they know TNG and the other series a lot better.
I suppose I am little jittery because of the very high expectations I have of this series. The need to innovate in the face of TV shows with non-formulaic story-telling as well as the need to tackle difficult social issues (Gene's legacy if I had to pick something) is raising the bar very high.
 
Though I have been very pleased with the announcement that Star Trek would return I am somewhat skeptical of the involvement of Rod Roddenberry. His father arguably lost his touch during the production of The Motion Picture and TNG. I won't repeat what happened, but if Rod is here for just his name recognition and to smooth things over with Gene's estate isn't there a risk history could repeat itself? Why take the risk in the first place. I am sad to say that I think the legacy of Gene Roddenberry may not be known to as large an audience as some may think. I personally remember Gene for TOS, Earth and Andromeda while most people may know who Captain Kirk is and seen a few TOS episode they know TNG and the other series a lot better.
I suppose I am little jittery because of the very high expectations I have of this series. The need to innovate in the face of TV shows with non-formulaic story-telling as well as the need to tackle difficult social issues (Gene's legacy if I had to pick something) is raising the bar very high.
I don't know what specific role Rod Roddenberry will play, but he has proven to be at least somewhat skeptical of his father's legacy. Perhaps he will be protective, but I doubt he will impose some form of Trek orthodoxy.
 
And it's not like Roddenberry would have absolute creative control over the whole thing. He's presumably just going to be one of several executives offering notes.
 
Like Christopher said, it's unlikely that Roddenberry have much, if any creative control over the series. The person with the biggest creative input will be Brian Fuller, and he's a highly respected writer, who proved with Hannibal that he's not afraid to push the envelope off a cliff and laugh maniacally as it falls to it's bloody death at the bottom.
 
Brian Fuller indeed did a terrific job with Hannibal. Rod's inclusion just feels like one of those studio decisions that have in the past undermined Star Trek. Well, for now we will have to just wait and see I suppose.
 
Just don't get it massively wrong (I'm looking at you DS9) and just stick to what we love, Character driven plots with action often secondary (Which is why I rather liked enterprise)
Personally, I found DS9 to be the most character-driven of any of the series, even in the midst of the Dominion War. ENT had a few nice moments here and there but they always came off as more focused on action and underwear to drive their stories on. But that's just me.
 
Rod's inclusion just feels like one of those studio decisions that have in the past undermined Star Trek.

It seems like the reverse of that to me. In the past, Paramount (as CBS Studios was then known) preferred to keep the Roddenberrys out of it. They allowed GR to produce TMP, and they weren't satisfied with the result, so they pushed him aside to a consultant role on the later movies. They grudgingly let him produce TNG for fear that the fan community would reject it if GR didn't endorse it, but that went disastrously due to his poor health, and he was again quietly nudged aside before too long. And after that, Paramount made no effort whatsoever to involve Majel or Rod in any producing capacity on any subsequent Trek production. After all, they had acquired the franchise fully from Roddenberry, and so they wanted to maintain full control over it. They would've seen the Roddenberry estate as competition.

The main parallel now is that they're probably bringing in Rod R. for the sake of good PR with the fan community, to give the sense that the Roddenberry legacy is being respected and that this is a legitimate continuation. But I doubt that CBS is ceding any major degree of control over the series to Roddenberry. As I said, he'll probably be more of a consultant, one of the multiple executives offering notes on the production.
 
Can anyone tell me what Rod Roddenberry brings to the table other than his name?
 
It seems like the reverse of that to me. In the past, Paramount (as CBS Studios was then known) preferred to keep the Roddenberrys out of it. They allowed GR to produce TMP, and they weren't satisfied with the result, so they pushed him aside to a consultant role on the later movies. They grudgingly let him produce TNG for fear that the fan community would reject it if GR didn't endorse it, but that went disastrously due to his poor health, and he was again quietly nudged aside before too long. And after that, Paramount made no effort whatsoever to involve Majel or Rod in any producing capacity on any subsequent Trek production. After all, they had acquired the franchise fully from Roddenberry, and so they wanted to maintain full control over it. They would've seen the Roddenberry estate as competition.

The main parallel now is that they're probably bringing in Rod R. for the sake of good PR with the fan community, to give the sense that the Roddenberry legacy is being respected and that this is a legitimate continuation. But I doubt that CBS is ceding any major degree of control over the series to Roddenberry. As I said, he'll probably be more of a consultant, one of the multiple executives offering notes on the production.
Roddenberry was actually brought into TNG solely due to contract obligations. No new Star Trek incarnation could ever be created without his consent. Not having him involved would have most assuredly resulted in his veto, and, contrary to the movies, this time he did indeed had a very strong legal base to block any and all development of a new Star Trek production. Paramount would have most likely told Gene to fuck off and leave them alone if it wasn't for that, just as they did with the films, but they couldn't this time.
 
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