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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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Found this little gem of Alec
 
I suppose what's not clear to me is what value there is in reviewing a three year-old first draft script. That's not the script they're shooting. Two other writers have supposedly completely reworked it. In fact we don't even know how relevant "Prelude" is to what they intend to do now.

If Peters and company are smart, they'll say nothing more about the article than "we're not shooting that script and, in this instance, they may be telling the truth.
 
No it won't. Have you seen the Republican Presidential campaign this year? :guffaw:

yes, the strategy of trash rhetoric won't go away. the specific circumstances it is attaching to tend to go away, and the smaller the base, the faster. Talkies were attacked as the end of live music. It is a lot harder if you get an institution in place which reuses the technique as often as it can, and each generation has to learn over again how to pry loose of it.
 
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Looks like the Judge:
1) Either has a full Calendar and can't accommodate the new date proposed.
2) He's effectively putting council on notice he won't stand for delay and wants to get this matter going.

It could be a problem as Paramount/CBS was the party requesting more time/a later hearing date; but that said, I wouldn't read it as a 'win' for anyone as the Judge may already consider it pretty cut and dried; and again just wants to move it along. The 'win' would be if Axanar gets the case dismissed; but I doubt that will be the result of the hearing. So far this is pretty standard 'bookkeeping' stuff. It's only unusual to you if you have no clue (as I don't believe Mr. Alec 'lawyer by training' Peters does); how an actual Civil courtroom works in the real world - and don't base your 'assessment' on some courtroom procedural TV show. Most court calendars are filled/set many months in advance and moving one date can cause legal havoc (as parties have to be notified of any change) that most Judges avoid. Probably both parties initially conferred with the Judge to set the 3/21 date, then one side or the other (usually not both) agrees to write and submit the order. If it didn't happen that way- it would be unusual (and it wouldn't be the first time a lawyer suddenly had an issue pop up in another unrelated case where they ask for a change as it's probably the other case is farther along, etc.) Still it does put more pressure on the CBS/Paramount team; and it's something they'd rather not have.
 
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Bearing in mind we live in different timezones, might it be a good idea to refer to the date by the date itself? For me, Billj, its already today
 
You know, I wonder if somebody at CBS/Paramount was tempted to include an Ensign Alec Peters who is the first red shirt to get killed in the new movie

As long as they have the ol' disclaimer of "any similarity to real persons is purely coincidental" then they can't get sued, right?

Kor
 
Sorry, Allyn, but you can't claim copyright on a work that is derivative from someone else's copyright.

According to the US Copyright Office, copyright is automatic. Peters can certainly assert his rights over his original material.

I admit, this situation is messy in that his original material exists because of someone else's copyrighted material. But that should not be taken as a carte blanche to distribute and quote from his work. The words, in the script, belong to whomever wrote them.
 
After checking Ares Digital just now, it seems that I've donated a total of $70 to both Prelude and the Axanar film. I thought I'd actually donated alot less than that. I kind of got lost with all of the crowdfunding they did. I feel like a chump now >_>
$70--I'd say you are not a chump, but you got off lucky.
My most time-consuming hobby for many years was being an admin on Alec's forum. I didn't even realize until recently that the work I did for the group (many of whom are/were my closest friends) actually was all in benefit to Alec. Even though I knew he was an a$$hole, my role was to be the kindly mom to his mean dad. I haven't kissed his butt for a long time, but I never said anything until this suit came up. He takes talented groups of people, uses and abuses them, takes all the credit and deflects all the blame.
http://startrekauction.blogspot.com/2013_07_01_archive.html
 
According to the US Copyright Office, copyright is automatic. Peters can certainly assert his rights over his original material.

I admit, this situation is messy in that his original material exists because of someone else's copyrighted material. But that should not be taken as a carte blanche to distribute and quote from his work. The words, in the script, belong to whomever wrote them.
Problem is to defend such a claim IN COURT - the copyright has to be legally valid - and Mr. Peters copyright claim would fail on those grounds and the case would be dismissed as Mr. Peters would be unable to prove he had a valid claim (Hell, Axanar is TRYING to claim CBS/Paramount's copyright is not 'clearly defined' thus the case should be dismissed.)
 
Looks like the Judge:
1) Either has a full Calendar and can't accommodate the new date proposed.
2) He's effectively putting council on notice he won't stand for delay and wants to get this matter going.

It could be a problem as Paramount/CBS was the party requesting more time/a later hearing date; but that said, I wouldn't read it as a 'win' for anyone as the Judge may already consider it pretty cut and dried; and again just wants to move it along. The 'win' would be if Axanar gets the case dismissed; but I doubt that will be the result of the hearing. So far this is pretty standard 'bookkeeping' stuff. It's only unusual to you if you have no clue (as I don't believe Mr. 'lawyer by training' does); how an actual Civil courtroom works in the real world - and don't base your 'assessment' on some courtroom procedural TV show. Most court calendars are filled/set many months in advance and moving one date can cause legal havoc (as parties have to be notified of any change) that most Judges avoid. Probably both parties initially conferred with the Judge to set the 3/21 date, then one side or the other (usually not both) agrees to write and submit the order. If it didn't happen that way- it would be unusual (and it wouldn't be the first time a lawyer suddenly had an issue pop up in another unrelated case where they ask for a change as it's probably the other case is farther along, etc.) Still it does put more pressure on the CBS/Paramount team; and it's something they'd rather not have.

This is really not a surprise if you know Judge Klausner's reputation. He does not suffer delays gladly. Beyond that, it's difficult to read too much more into his decision. He did take all last week to rule on the continuance; he may have read the motion and decided it's not something that should take the plaintiffs a lot of effort to write a brief in opposition.
 
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