Spoilers STAR TREK BEYOND

[Lynn Minmay]

Is this movie still coming out in three months? Ya would've fooled me with the total LACK of advertising on Paramount's part.

They sure as hell better make the second trailer better.

 

[Amaris]

Is this movie still coming out in three months? Ya would've fooled me with the total LACK of advertising on Paramount's part.

They sure as hell better make the second trailer better.

The movie is coming out on July 22nd. That's 5 months away. They've already released a teaser trailer, a bunch of interviews, and ran a contest. It would have been foolish to go full steam ahead with Star Wars on its way, and now that Star Wars has started losing steam in the news (somewhat), the people behind STB will begin ramping things up.

 

[F. King Daniel]

It was a bit of a small coup that Trek landed him for a nice, big role. I can't wait to see him do what he does best (which is be awesome).

I just hope he's not completely lost under all those prosthetics. It took me ten years and someone posting on Facebook to realise Shinzon's Viceroy was Ron Pearlman - and all I could think was, that could have been anyone and it wouldn't have made any difference.

 

[Ovation]

Of course, that was hardly number one on the list of problems for that movie.

 

[Tesophius]

I hope it's not going to be yet another pew-pew-action flick. I liked the first episode/scene of the Into Darkness, where they were messing with the Prime Directive with a primitive civilization. Something like that would be far more preferable as a backdrop for a movie, than just endless explosions.

 

[Shalashaska]

I hope it's not going to be yet another pew-pew-action flick. I liked the first episode/scene of the Into Darkness, where they were messing with the Prime Directive with a primitive civilization. Something like that would be far more preferable as a backdrop for a movie, than just endless explosions.

You seem to have the same opinion as 90% of people who've posted in this thread, so... congrats!

 

[Kemaiku]

I loved that opening and hope they do something as good or better.

 

[Khan 2.0]

Star Trek: Pew Pew (that's the title for the next one btw)

 

[Nerys Myk]

The movie is coming out on July 22nd. That's 5 months away. They've already released a teaser trailer, a bunch of interviews, and ran a contest. It would have been foolish to go full steam ahead with Star Wars on its way, and now that Star Wars has started losing steam in the news (somewhat), the people behind STB will begin ramping things up.

I think a lot of people have a unrealistic view of the promotion time line of films.

 

[JWPlatt]

I hope it's not going to be yet another pew-pew-action flick.

All too often it seems like studio suits live in a vacuum, either out of touch with their audience, distrustful, or just plain cynical of it. Many writers are on record these days of giving the middle finger to what "fans want." So be it. We'll see soon enough whether that first trailer was in any way representative of the final product. With Justin Lin at the helm, chosen by those suits, people have good reason to be concerned if his style is not to their liking. The choice of Pegg as writer should introduce a more fun romp with good Star Trek sensibilities, but he has to deliver what he's paid to deliver to the studio and director.

 

[Nerys Myk]

All too often it seems like studio suits live in a vacuum, either out of touch with their audience, distrustful, or just plain cynical of it. Many writers are on record these days of giving the middle finger to what "fans want." So be it. We'll see soon enough whether that first trailer was in any way representative of the final product. With Justin Lin at the helm, chosen by those suits, people have good reason to be concerned if his style is not to their liking. The choice of Pegg as writer should introduce a more fun romp with good Star Trek sensibilities, but he has to delivered what he's paid to deliver to the studio and director.

Lather rinse repeat.

 

[BillJ]

All too often it seems like studio suits live in a vacuum, either out of touch with their audience, distrustful, or just plain cynical of it.

This statement makes no sense, as the studio has just produced two of the highest grossing, well reviewed movies in the franchise. Even here, 80% of voters rated Into Darkness as a 'B-' or better.

Is it the studio suits living in a vacuum out of touch with their audience, or simply some fans that can't let the past go?

 

[JWPlatt]

The former, when success is a coincidence. Also, cynical works; it's just not sincere.

Are you saying the studios and writers give fans what they want with no disregard, and that's why movies succeed?

 

[BillJ]

Are you saying the studios and writers give fans what they want with no disregard, and that's why movies succeed?

No, I'm saying that stating they live in a vacuum is nonsense. They probably did quite a bit of research into audience expectations before spending $150 million dollars on a movie.

They knew what their audiences were expecting from a 'Star Trek' movie and set out to deliver it. I find it no coincidence that most fan stuff that people say is the heart of Trek deliver the same exact things as the Abrams films do: action and cool CGI. Check out some of the Axanar CGI or Star Trek: Horizon.

Maybe step back and realize that the folks who claim the Abrams films are bad and not Star Trek are tiny minority and most of us are perfectly happy with the product Paramount and Bad Robot has delivered. I know I feel like a kid again watching the Abrams movies. I can't think of a greater thing to get from a movie.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The former, when success is a coincidence. Also, cynical works; it's just not sincere.

Are you saying the studios and writers give fans what they want with no disregard, and that's why movies succeed?

"Fans" don't know what they want, especially since fans are a diverse group. Movies succeed because the audience likes them. All success is probably a coincidence. If "fan" opinion was an accurate barometer the studios would be cranking out successful films like clockwork. As it is, it's a crap shoot.

 

[eyeresist]

No, I'm saying that stating they live in a vacuum is nonsense. They probably did quite a bit of research into audience expectations before spending $150 million dollars on a movie.

No doubt the movie was heavily audience-tested before release, and then critical reaction was recorded and assessed.

 

[BillJ]

No doubt the movie was heavily audience-tested before release, and then critical reaction was recorded and assessed.

I'm sure there was quite a bit of research done before the first check was written.

 

[Franklin]

All too often it seems like studio suits live in a vacuum, either out of touch with their audience, distrustful, or just plain cynical of it. Many writers are on record these days of giving the middle finger to what "fans want." So be it. We'll see soon enough whether that first trailer was in any way representative of the final product. With Justin Lin at the helm, chosen by those suits, people have good reason to be concerned if his style is not to their liking. The choice of Pegg as writer should introduce a more fun romp with good Star Trek sensibilities, but he has to deliver what he's paid to deliver to the studio and director.

Lin is a fan.

I'm just going to have faith of the heart.

 

[JWPlatt]

I don't think these forums are convinced that fans make good movies.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I don't think these forums are convinced that fans make good movies.

I don't think it's that so much as being a fan shouldn't be the topmost consideration when hiring someone. Their qualifications as a writer or filmmaker should come first and foremost, and if they're a fan, that's a nice bonus, but not an absolute requirement. We've had fans and non-fans alike write and direct both good and bad Trek films.