100 years after the destruction of Romulus gets us past the Dominion War /Spock MIA / TNG-DS9-VOY era, and pretty much gives Fuller a fresh slate to use, but he can still reference stuff like TNG did with TOS. I just would start with using aliens we already know (Like how bad are the Romulans with no planet, how has exploration proceeded post-DW, etc.) and then throw in new aliens, etc. Also, more one in ones vs a grand epic arc. Oh, and Q shows up.
Describe YOUR new Star Trek series.
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Finally saw an episode that I had missed, "The Sound of Her Voice" (DS9). Fine episode, it demonstrates that Trek is pre-adapted to Twilight Zone type stories.
One theme of the episode-friendship-is timeless.
One theme of the episode-friendship-is timeless.
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I have described what I would do in this thread:
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/my-idea-for-a-new-series.279624/
However, I do have two other suggestions:
1. Star Trek NCIS
A series which would be like NCIS but take place in the 24th century.
2. Delta Quadrant Federation
How the people at the Briori planet (Star Trek Voyager episode "The 37's") would create a new Federation in the Delta Quadrant.
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/my-idea-for-a-new-series.279624/
However, I do have two other suggestions:
1. Star Trek NCIS
A series which would be like NCIS but take place in the 24th century.
2. Delta Quadrant Federation
How the people at the Briori planet (Star Trek Voyager episode "The 37's") would create a new Federation in the Delta Quadrant.
STAR TREK: MIRROR
I've always enjoyed stories about the mirror universe. Seems like a series of its own is overdue. It would be great to have The Shat brought in as Emperor Tiberius. So many possibilities....
I've always enjoyed stories about the mirror universe. Seems like a series of its own is overdue. It would be great to have The Shat brought in as Emperor Tiberius. So many possibilities....
All of this is golden and I agree with it completely.
Without being too specific, here are some bullet points on things I'd like to see in a new Trek series:
Setting: Prime timeline, 4-5 decades post-Nemesis. How about the dawn of the 25th Century.
Ship: USS Enterprise, no B,C,D,E or bloody F. It's time Starfleet let go and let registry numbers just be registry numbers again. This one could be NCC-17001.
In reality, she would be the successor to Picard's Ent-E.
Backstory: After the events of the Dominion War, the Borg Wars, Nemesis, etc, things have FINALLY settled down just a tad for a few decades. Stability has returned to the Federation. There is peace between the Federation, Klingon, Cardassians, and what's left of the Romulans. The challenges of the 23rd and 24th century have been overcome. On we go to the 25h Century.
The Crew: Completely new. I have no preconceptions on their make-up or what not but I'd like the core cast to be smaller at least initially, in order to concentrate on their characters and story development.
The Mission: A 5-10 year journey of deep space exploration and discovery hearkening back to TOS, taking place largely outside Federation boundaries and with limited contact with home. If they are going to do 13 episode arcs, the possibilities are nearly endless. Imagine stories like 'First Contact' or 'Conspiracy' from TNG told over a 13 episode arc?
Could be epic!
I'm just sayin'!!
Setting: Prime timeline, 4-5 decades post-Nemesis. How about the dawn of the 25th Century.
Ship: USS Enterprise, no B,C,D,E or bloody F. It's time Starfleet let go and let registry numbers just be registry numbers again. This one could be NCC-17001.
In reality, she would be the successor to Picard's Ent-E.Backstory: After the events of the Dominion War, the Borg Wars, Nemesis, etc, things have FINALLY settled down just a tad for a few decades. Stability has returned to the Federation. There is peace between the Federation, Klingon, Cardassians, and what's left of the Romulans. The challenges of the 23rd and 24th century have been overcome. On we go to the 25h Century.
The Crew: Completely new. I have no preconceptions on their make-up or what not but I'd like the core cast to be smaller at least initially, in order to concentrate on their characters and story development.
The Mission: A 5-10 year journey of deep space exploration and discovery hearkening back to TOS, taking place largely outside Federation boundaries and with limited contact with home. If they are going to do 13 episode arcs, the possibilities are nearly endless. Imagine stories like 'First Contact' or 'Conspiracy' from TNG told over a 13 episode arc?
Could be epic!
I'm just sayin'!!
I like the idea of a galaxy-spanning Game of Thrones type of series, focusing on multiple different cultures and alien ships to go along with the usual Starfleet ship, whether that's the USS Enterprise-G or a brand new ship we've never seen before.
I want a new crew with conflict between the characters, I want long story arcs and serialized storytelling, I want shorter seasons, I want progressive casting and the portrayal of a bright future, I want lots of bright colours and less beige/grey, I want it to be adventurous and exciting, I want it to be set quite a while after Nemesis with a different look from the previous shows without completely alienating fans, I want to see some old characters and cast members show up here and there, I want it to respect the past and have some semblance of continuity with the last six Star Trek shows, and I want it to be fucking good.
That's a lot to ask for, but hey, it's my series after all.
I want a new crew with conflict between the characters, I want long story arcs and serialized storytelling, I want shorter seasons, I want progressive casting and the portrayal of a bright future, I want lots of bright colours and less beige/grey, I want it to be adventurous and exciting, I want it to be set quite a while after Nemesis with a different look from the previous shows without completely alienating fans, I want to see some old characters and cast members show up here and there, I want it to respect the past and have some semblance of continuity with the last six Star Trek shows, and I want it to be fucking good.
That's a lot to ask for, but hey, it's my series after all.
My ideal new star trek series would be set in a 1:1 time correlation to the star trek time frame, meaning the amount of time passed since nemesis came out (13 years), is the same amount of time that has passed in the star trek world. This would mean that it would begin in 2392. The series would revolve around a story arc concerning the Borg, their queen, and the attempt to (but never coming close to) discovering their origins (which I believe should forever remain a mystery, and only hinted to at most).
The Borg would be portrayed as increasingly ruthless and terrifying throughout the series. We would visibly observe the advancement of the collective season by season. Their total domination of the delta quadrant would provoke alliances throughout the galaxy in an attempt to resist them. This is as far as I'll go with things I would love to see in my ideal series as if I said anymore, I would be forced to keep going on for hours and might as well write my own novel series.
Whether it would be based on a star ship, space station, planetary surface, etc; the theme and main characters would remain persistent and the writing/storytelling would be the strength of the show, accompanied by exquisite CGI, special effects, and set pieces.
The Borg would be portrayed as increasingly ruthless and terrifying throughout the series. We would visibly observe the advancement of the collective season by season. Their total domination of the delta quadrant would provoke alliances throughout the galaxy in an attempt to resist them. This is as far as I'll go with things I would love to see in my ideal series as if I said anymore, I would be forced to keep going on for hours and might as well write my own novel series.
Whether it would be based on a star ship, space station, planetary surface, etc; the theme and main characters would remain persistent and the writing/storytelling would be the strength of the show, accompanied by exquisite CGI, special effects, and set pieces.
I was re-watching The Legend of the Rangers. Interesting way G'Kar treated ancient history, or rather, "myths" about events eons ago. Gives great depth to Babylon 5 history.
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This may be heretical, but...
Whatever my perfect new Trek series might be, it would definitely involve far less technobabble and far more elbow grease. One of the images that's always stuck with me is from DS9 where Chief O'Brien can't seem to get a panel in OPs to work so he hauls back and stomps on it. I think it's from the Pilot. The stories were more personal and the characters solved their problems mostly through action, rather than tech-speak. Similar to many TOS and ENT episodes. The tech was a part of the story, of course, but the tech should facilitate good, character-centric stories rather than the tech being both problem and solution. I'm just not interested in another series with long stretches of made up words invented simply to solve made up problems caused by long strings of other made up words. That kind of thing just rings hollow to me, which is probably why I prefer DS9 so strongly to the other series. Actions have consequences. Characters develop relationships. No character is perfect. Reoccurring characters. Action, emotion, and drama over technobabble and weekly resets. Serial fiction rather than episodic.
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1. Star Trek: Titan, the Animated Series. Could use the original cast or sound-alikes for Riker and Troi. Could easily handle the diverse cast of characters without breaking a poor actor's heart with endless butt-in-makeup-chair. Could easily avoid the worry about cheap and cheesy CGI. Could be made for 1/5 the budget of a TNG episode. Could easily handle the one thing Trek on TV or film has never been able to really pull off, namely the sheer possibilities of the universe.
2. Star Trek: Early Years, the Animated Series. Noticing a trend? All the same money saving perks as above. Only this series would feature the crew of another Federation ship in the early days of the Federation. Those awkward times when the militaries are still integrating, when ships and systems and command structures are wildly diverse but expected to conform to one unified ethos. Heavy focus on the Humans, Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellarites getting used to working together long-term in confined spaces. Could definitely draw on the cast of ENT for voice actors and characters. Seeing Shran as the security chief or the captain of a Fed ship would be amazing.
3. Star Trek: Future Something, the Animated Series. Again with the money saving animation. Put this one 100 years into the future of TNG, just as TNG was set 100 years into the future of TOS. New species, new planets, new threats... you get the idea.
4. Star Trek: The Lost Era, the Animated Series. All the same cost savings and connecting up the loose ends and/or exploring new planets, species, and cultures.
My ideal new Trek series? These. Right there.
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This may be heretical, but...
Whatever my perfect new Trek series might be, it would definitely involve far less technobabble and far more elbow grease. One of the images that's always stuck with me is from DS9 where Chief O'Brien can't seem to get a panel in OPs to work so he hauls back and stomps on it. I think it's from the Pilot. The stories were more personal and the characters solved their problems mostly through action, rather than tech-speak. Similar to many TOS and ENT episodes. The tech was a part of the story, of course, but the tech should facilitate good, character-centric stories rather than the tech being both problem and solution. I'm just not interested in another series with long stretches of made up words invented simply to solve made up problems caused by long strings of other made up words. That kind of thing just rings hollow to me, which is probably why I prefer DS9 so strongly to the other series. Actions have consequences. Characters develop relationships. No character is perfect. Reoccurring characters. Action, emotion, and drama over technobabble and weekly resets. Serial fiction rather than episodic.
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1. Star Trek: Titan, the Animated Series. Could use the original cast or sound-alikes for Riker and Troi. Could easily handle the diverse cast of characters without breaking a poor actor's heart with endless butt-in-makeup-chair. Could easily avoid the worry about cheap and cheesy CGI. Could be made for 1/5 the budget of a TNG episode. Could easily handle the one thing Trek on TV or film has never been able to really pull off, namely the sheer possibilities of the universe.
2. Star Trek: Early Years, the Animated Series. Noticing a trend? All the same money saving perks as above. Only this series would feature the crew of another Federation ship in the early days of the Federation. Those awkward times when the militaries are still integrating, when ships and systems and command structures are wildly diverse but expected to conform to one unified ethos. Heavy focus on the Humans, Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellarites getting used to working together long-term in confined spaces. Could definitely draw on the cast of ENT for voice actors and characters. Seeing Shran as the security chief or the captain of a Fed ship would be amazing.
3. Star Trek: Future Something, the Animated Series. Again with the money saving animation. Put this one 100 years into the future of TNG, just as TNG was set 100 years into the future of TOS. New species, new planets, new threats... you get the idea.
4. Star Trek: The Lost Era, the Animated Series. All the same cost savings and connecting up the loose ends and/or exploring new planets, species, and cultures.
My ideal new Trek series? These. Right there.
I do wonder how an animated show with the Kelvin timeline TOS crew in the style of older, episodic Trek would work.
I was hoping you'd say "...in the style of TAS".
Please no, in fact I would like to see a moratorium on all uber-powerful beings and species.
Star Trek needs challenges, it's a part of the package. Hopefully there will be many challanges. Nothing like the Xindi season on ENT, or the way the Dominion dominated so much of later DS9.
Would like to see a semi-permanent "away team" that would do off-ship actions. Not solely crime, but also science investigations, first contacts, rescues, so forth. Get away from away/landing parties being composed of the senior officers. Such a team would not be the sole focus of the show, but would be a reoccuring aspect, with reoccuring actor. Part of a larger ensemble cast.
The way a doctor show focuses on the doctors, but there are nurses, orderlies, paramedics that we see on a regular basis, but not every show. The away team will be the show's "paramedics."
In addition to a "NCIS team," I do want a ensemble cast, I want to get to know the secondary characters. I want Ensign Gomez and Security Chief Giotto to get their own on-screen little stories. Yes, there will be a primary group of character who will get the most screen time, but they shouldn't be all we ever see.
I think there are only a few good plots that feature uber powerful beings. Are there any good ones left for Trek?
I've basically had an idea for a 25th century show since I was a kid, and I've been sort of tinkering with it ever since. Now that Discovery will be a prequel, there's still hope >_>
I won't go into to much detail, but as of now it would be about the Enterprise-H doing basic Enterprise missions, though it would eventually have more story arcs than TNG. The Federation is the strongest power in the "Alpha Quadrant", though there will be a new enemy empire as well. The Breen would be secondary villain race, at least in the beginning. I go back and forth over what would happen with the Klingons and Romulans, but they definitely won't be an active threat.
I won't go into to much detail, but as of now it would be about the Enterprise-H doing basic Enterprise missions, though it would eventually have more story arcs than TNG. The Federation is the strongest power in the "Alpha Quadrant", though there will be a new enemy empire as well. The Breen would be secondary villain race, at least in the beginning. I go back and forth over what would happen with the Klingons and Romulans, but they definitely won't be an active threat.
How about a Trek show that isn't focused on Starfleet people?
ST:RSO-- Star Trek: Rogue Star One
Stuck in the middle of a great expanse between two of the galaxy's spiral arms, way out in the middle of freaking nowhere, lies an ancient rogue white dwarf surrounded by a few long-dead planets. In orbit around one of those planets is an impossibly old space station, put there by... well, nobody knows.
Discovered about 25 years prior, the station had since been revamped and expanded by a Ferengi company looking to profit from tourism and scientists. That company went broke, and through some slick chicanery, the crew of the station managed to gain ownership of it. They may or may not owe the Orion Syndicate a lot of money. They aren't Ferengi, except for one guy. They are a mix of people, mostly human or human-ish, and are far, FAR from the kinds of people we have always known among Starfleet's Finest. No, they aren't scuzzballs or anything, but they are pretty much people like we 21st century types.
I'm thinking the Commander is a Vince Vaughn/ Joe Everyman sort of guy.
Today, the station is always abuzz with activity.
The original station was originally built, so very long ago, to study the long lost civilization of the planets, and now the trend continues. Scientists are constantly getting underfoot as they study the planets and the station itself. Even better, the fact that there are no other stars around gives the station's telescopes a fantastically clear view. It can see things in intergalactic space, and sometimes it does! The station's old memory banks have stored some data gathered by it's telescopes in the early days, and something VERY disturbing and perplexing has been learned.
The scientists aren't the only visitors.
Along the edges of the expanse, scattered through the galactic arms, are many civilizations of limited warp capacity. Getting across the gap is a difficult thing to do. However, now they can stop at RSO at roughly the halfway point for rest, repairs, etc...
In short, RSO is a truckstop in space.
It's also a big brokerage house and meeting spot. Traders don't have to go all the way across the gap anymore. They can instead just meet with their trading partners halfway or even pick up/drop off their loads at the station.
This gives us a lot of plot opportunities, as each week we have people coming and going.
The station is also a repair depot, so broken down ships can call for help and get towed in by the station's more advanced vessels.
Of course, broken ships usually indicate plot-hooks.
The station is also the only bastion of law & order out in the gap, so the station frequently gets called upon to send out a ship to help solve some sort of problem. ( the fact that RSO's crew are themselves the biggest criminal element in the gap is something we'll try to ignore LOL!!! )
The old part of the station, the core, is very creepy. The new parts are all shiny and clean, but the old parts are anything but that. A bit like a truckstop, yes, when one goes from the touristy parts in the front and walks out back to the garage. However, dust and grime are only cosmetic. No, there is something else going on here, something downright weird and creepy. It's like it's haunted, or worse yet...somehow....alive.
Over time, we watch the guys who work in the core section start acting more & more strangely. It's like they are becoming aliens. They start using an odd slang among themselves, their personalities shift, and they become wizards at working with the old technology which previously confounded them.
Yep, ST:RSO could be a great show.
ST:RSO-- Star Trek: Rogue Star One
Stuck in the middle of a great expanse between two of the galaxy's spiral arms, way out in the middle of freaking nowhere, lies an ancient rogue white dwarf surrounded by a few long-dead planets. In orbit around one of those planets is an impossibly old space station, put there by... well, nobody knows.
Discovered about 25 years prior, the station had since been revamped and expanded by a Ferengi company looking to profit from tourism and scientists. That company went broke, and through some slick chicanery, the crew of the station managed to gain ownership of it. They may or may not owe the Orion Syndicate a lot of money. They aren't Ferengi, except for one guy. They are a mix of people, mostly human or human-ish, and are far, FAR from the kinds of people we have always known among Starfleet's Finest. No, they aren't scuzzballs or anything, but they are pretty much people like we 21st century types.
I'm thinking the Commander is a Vince Vaughn/ Joe Everyman sort of guy.
Today, the station is always abuzz with activity.
The original station was originally built, so very long ago, to study the long lost civilization of the planets, and now the trend continues. Scientists are constantly getting underfoot as they study the planets and the station itself. Even better, the fact that there are no other stars around gives the station's telescopes a fantastically clear view. It can see things in intergalactic space, and sometimes it does! The station's old memory banks have stored some data gathered by it's telescopes in the early days, and something VERY disturbing and perplexing has been learned.
The scientists aren't the only visitors.
Along the edges of the expanse, scattered through the galactic arms, are many civilizations of limited warp capacity. Getting across the gap is a difficult thing to do. However, now they can stop at RSO at roughly the halfway point for rest, repairs, etc...
In short, RSO is a truckstop in space.
It's also a big brokerage house and meeting spot. Traders don't have to go all the way across the gap anymore. They can instead just meet with their trading partners halfway or even pick up/drop off their loads at the station.
This gives us a lot of plot opportunities, as each week we have people coming and going.
The station is also a repair depot, so broken down ships can call for help and get towed in by the station's more advanced vessels.
Of course, broken ships usually indicate plot-hooks.
The station is also the only bastion of law & order out in the gap, so the station frequently gets called upon to send out a ship to help solve some sort of problem. ( the fact that RSO's crew are themselves the biggest criminal element in the gap is something we'll try to ignore LOL!!! )
The old part of the station, the core, is very creepy. The new parts are all shiny and clean, but the old parts are anything but that. A bit like a truckstop, yes, when one goes from the touristy parts in the front and walks out back to the garage. However, dust and grime are only cosmetic. No, there is something else going on here, something downright weird and creepy. It's like it's haunted, or worse yet...somehow....alive.
Over time, we watch the guys who work in the core section start acting more & more strangely. It's like they are becoming aliens. They start using an odd slang among themselves, their personalities shift, and they become wizards at working with the old technology which previously confounded them.
Yep, ST:RSO could be a great show.
It was suggested that the U.S.S. Discovery might be a macguffin, rather than the hero ship.
That got me thinking....what if the macguffin was a far future version of the Flying Dutchman?
Could be a recurring theme in the proposed Trek-meets-X-Files concept.
That got me thinking....what if the macguffin was a far future version of the Flying Dutchman?
Could be a recurring theme in the proposed Trek-meets-X-Files concept.
IMHO, this is what ENT should've been! One of the first Federation ships rather than just humans, would've been far far better.
It's 75 years after the devastating (and many say unnecessary) Dominion War. Starfleet has fallen out of favor. Federation citizenry has wearied of constant conflict (Klingon, Romulan, Borg, & Dominion) and the mindset has turned isolationist. Circle the wagons and protect the existing Federation is the common sentiment. Stop flying around and poking the galaxy with a stick. Defense can be maintained through interplanetary cooperation, making Starfleet redundant. Peace through safety. The Federation is too big to fail. Being in Starfleet isn't the honor it once was and a talent drain has seriously eroded Starfleet's creditability and effectiveness. Starfleet isn't getting the funds or the rubber stamp it enjoyed for so long. Starfleet is stretched thin and its allies are few. Starfleet and Federation personnel who still believe in Starfleet's mission to explore the galaxy and make friendly contact with alien civilizations are seen, in general, to be quaint at best and woefully misguided at worst. The show would be about how a once proud organization rediscovers its purpose, sheds the negative aspects of its past, how new leaders and heroes emerge and Starfleet reinvigorates and redeems itself.
