And you've said "nothing" that makes your statement "true". If you are going to make an assertion, you need to explain why you think bringing Myers to the table is "Old Trek". So unless you have some inside knowledge on what CBS wants to do with the new, Trek series, you really should give them the benefit of a doubt.
Nicholas Meyer to join writing staff of new series
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And you've said "nothing" that makes your statement "true". If you are going to make an assertion, you need to explain why you think bringing Myers to the table is "Old Trek". So unless you have some inside knowledge on what CBS wants to do with the new, Trek series, you really should give them the benefit of a doubt.
Meyer came in and shook up the style of the Star Trek universe once before. Why would anyone assume he can't help to do that again?
With Fuller and Meyer on board, I no longer care about when/where the new show will be set. Old Trek, new Trek, even newer Trek...I'm just glad that it is in good hands.
With Fuller and Meyer on board, I no longer care about when/where the new show will be set. Old Trek, new Trek, even newer Trek...I'm just glad that it is in good hands.
I've always been a fan of Nick Meyer. I've watched so many interviews of him from his, as he put it, "self-funded book tour" when View from the Bridge came out. He's a really smart guy and a very talented writer. I always liked his approach to the process and wanting to tell a good story. I always hoped he come back to Trek, but knew it was a long shot.
This is just awesome news.
Now to start blaring the Wrath of Khan soundtrack.
This is just awesome news.
Now to start blaring the Wrath of Khan soundtrack.
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I see some concerns that this is old Trek ... I'm sorry but:
The executive producers are Alex Kurtzman and Heather Kadin -> They represent new Trek
Bryan Fuller -> Represent the 90's era Star Trek, but beside that he has a huge track record of being a great and unusual story teller lately, with some superb work that he has done since he left Star Trek. So Fuller is a great choice
Nick Meyer -> Represents the best of TOS, as he had involvement with the best movies TOS has to offer us. He understands Star Trek and the characters, how they should handle them
From my point of view this is the best thing that can happen to the 50th anniversary of Star Trek: CBS is taking the best of waht old Star Trek has to offer and mix it up with some new blood in form of Kurtzman and Kadin. I'm sure that as we will get closer to the release we will see attached to this project some more older but some new names too. CBS is trying to give us a Star Trek that will appeal to the fans of the 50 year old franchise but they will also give new fans something to look forward. If somebody can pull this off is Fuller with some great old and new names. So yeah, I'm excited. Now what I want is to see who the international distributors will be. I really hope that in Romania/Eastern Europe the distributor will be Netflix as any other stream services is a bad joke around us ...
The executive producers are Alex Kurtzman and Heather Kadin -> They represent new Trek
Bryan Fuller -> Represent the 90's era Star Trek, but beside that he has a huge track record of being a great and unusual story teller lately, with some superb work that he has done since he left Star Trek. So Fuller is a great choice
Nick Meyer -> Represents the best of TOS, as he had involvement with the best movies TOS has to offer us. He understands Star Trek and the characters, how they should handle them
From my point of view this is the best thing that can happen to the 50th anniversary of Star Trek: CBS is taking the best of waht old Star Trek has to offer and mix it up with some new blood in form of Kurtzman and Kadin. I'm sure that as we will get closer to the release we will see attached to this project some more older but some new names too. CBS is trying to give us a Star Trek that will appeal to the fans of the 50 year old franchise but they will also give new fans something to look forward. If somebody can pull this off is Fuller with some great old and new names. So yeah, I'm excited. Now what I want is to see who the international distributors will be. I really hope that in Romania/Eastern Europe the distributor will be Netflix as any other stream services is a bad joke around us ...
Hey, don't get me wrong, I'm gonna love it. My concern is... will anyone who isn't a Trekker love it because honestly, without a new audience, I don't see it surviving.
The movies are a red herring. A big budget awful movie about transformers was also hugely successful. TV is a different kettle of fish.
Two people who have worked on the old incarnations of Trek just wasn't what I was expecting. I'm sure it will be fine but my spidey senses are tingling.
It looks like they're going for a diverse writing team, which should hopefully result in an imaginative collection of episodes. Now if they get Tony Todd (presumably he would be the captain) this could be the most promising Star Trek series since DS9.
That's essentially how I feel about this news, too. I always liked Nicholas Meyer and greatly value his understanding of what makes a good story and good characters work. My hope is that in terms of writing he brings some of that old school sensibility and integrity to the table.
I think some of what you are saying can't be denied, but I remain optimistic that what the decision to hire Fuller and Meyer really means is that we are getting the best of both worlds: people who know how to craft new, unconventional and interesting characters and stories one the one hand, and people who know how Star Trek and Star Trek fans work on the other.
The thing is, NuSpock and NuKirk do not come across as very good "friends" to me. The only reason they are friends is because they HAVE to be, they're great friends in TOS and the original films, right? So they must be friends here too.
But if we scrap all that and pretend that these are new characters in a new universe, they wouldn't even remotely care about one another. My impression after seeing the two NuTrek films is that they both really want to be friends but they're such polar opposites that they can't be. Most of the time they're either arguing, disagreeing, shouting or choking one another.
So then to go see Spock not only cry, fair enough, he's been through a lot, to then scream "KHAAAAAAAN!", okay, very corny and unnecessary, but it's fan service I guess, to then see him violently punching the shit out of Khan is just absolutely ridiculous. You, a Vulcan, are going to release every single emotion possible because some guy you don't even get along with died? I think it's dumb.
Anyway, I'm done talking about the flaws of Into Darkness. This thread is about Meyer's hiring and I don't want it to be derailed like the Fuller thread.
As long as Fuller (if we're going to count junior writers as Trek veterans) and Meyer are the last of the "old Trek" hirings, I'm happy.
TNG at its worst was done with a writing staff full of TOS veterans. TNG at its best was done by newcomers and unknowns.
That means no Ronald D. Moore, Ira Steven Behr or D. C. Fontana. An episode or two written by them would be very welcome though.
TNG at its worst was done with a writing staff full of TOS veterans. TNG at its best was done by newcomers and unknowns.
That means no Ronald D. Moore, Ira Steven Behr or D. C. Fontana. An episode or two written by them would be very welcome though.
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There are actually 4 producers on the show, not 3. Heather Kadin is an executive producer.
On the surface, melding different generations of producers might sound good, but like a dream team in football, it remains to be seen if they can "gel" together as a cohesive unit. I do hope the hire some non trek writers for the staff.
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On the surface, melding different generations of producers might sound good, but like a dream team in football, it remains to be seen if they can "gel" together as a cohesive unit. I do hope the hire some non trek writers for the staff.
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Behind closed doors? Nobody knows. But in my opinion, Kurtzman always seemed like the quietest, most calculating of the bunch involved with the reboot movies. Fuller was there as very much a Junior during DS9/VOY and went on to make some well loved genre television which has garnered critical acclaim and in interviews he still seems be a passionate guy who gets it. Nick Meyer I don't know much about, but from what I do know he seems to like getting shit done the best he can. No one seems to have outwardly offensive egos or attitudes or at least publically known ones so I'd say the chances are they're all professionals who just want to make a TV show.
Color me pandered. And thrilled!
I wish I could get excited by this news, but I can't.
Fuller's done some great television work since his days on Trek. And we've never really seen his take on it. After all, he was a staff writer during his tenure, executing on someone else's vision. That I can get excited about considering his work after Trek.
With Meyer, we've seen his version of Trek already.
I'd like to see more people who haven't ever worked on Trek brought on board. I want fresh eyes. I want people who'll be willing to take risks with it rather than treat it with kid gloves.
As a friend of mine put it, it's like the new Trek show is running a Kickstarter campaign. Getting the big names to draw in the fans and their dollars. (And I say that as someone who is already paying for CBS Access — I have no issue with parting with $6/mo for a streaming service.)
Hello everyone! First time poster, so be kind. So as I've been reading this forum I've seen people be concerned that this would be too "old trek" and wouldn't appeal to new fans. To this I say, this is the man who wrote wrath of Khan. The star trek movie outside of the new ones and perhaps first contact that NON STAR TREK fans generally say "well that's just a good film". Seriously, I'm 25 and everyone in my age group who has happened upon wrath of Khan , star trek fan or not, has genuinely enjoyed it. Some more thoughts, Meyers shook up star trek but kept it true to itself when he came into write wrath of Khan, why couldn't he do that again? Why wouldn't he do that again?
I still can't believe the news and am not sure how to feel about it. Meyer is fantastic in his work, and TWOK certainly is a well made film.
But, I'll be curious to see what direction they all want to do. What direction they want to take it in, and all that. It's not that Meyer couldn't do that again, but he also hasn't been given carte blanche (yet) to write what he wants.
Not trying to sound pessimistic, because I think this could be good. But, it's all a matter of their direction.
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