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Shortening the journey.

It seemed like every episode in the later seasons ended with Janeway referring to finding a little shortcut.

If you remember, she actually mentioned that in her Bully Speech at the end of Caretaker. So any similar reference she made after that, could be attributed to keeping the crew on the optimistic side, but in reality, was nothing new at all.


Course: Oblivion wasn't Voyager.
Though the fact that the copy was ahead of Voyager would suggest some fannying about and taking the scenic route.

The silver dudes were ahead, likely for the most part, because of the enhanced warp drive that they developed (not elaborated on what it was exactly), which didn't happen on Voyager. It's interesting to consider that the copies, being exact duplicates of the originals, down to the memory engrams, would have thought of something like this and our actual heroes didn't. Perhaps, one can just attribute it to a momentary flash of insight silver Torres or Seven had, conceivable even if they were working with the same basic material. It's also possible that the drive hadn't made that much of a difference, as it may very well have only been online for a short time before the terminal truth was discovered, and the reason for the discrepancy in the ships' relative positions, was that silver Voyager took advantage of anomalies or alien devices that Voyager never even encountered on their flight path.:shrug:
 
The thing is, is everyone discounting the transwarp coils that were taken from the crashed sphere on the jungle planet?
And I recall a late episode where we see a black box in engineering with a thin drawer that slides out holding two thin metal rings called "transwarp coils"
 
For the second time in just a short while, I appear to be forgetting what would seem to be a pretty prominent plot point in a Voyager episode.When did that first example you mention take place? I think I recall an instance when they recovered technological booty from the smaller Borg craft they destroyed by beaming over a torpedo or alternately from Borg wreckage they happened upon in another episode, but for the scenario you're referencing, I'm coming up empty. :sigh:
 
The crashed sphere.. It was supposed to have been crash landed into a jungle planet, and was found and scavenged by voyager. It was mentioned in the star trek the magazine espose on the Borg. That issue included the queen ship, and one photo of the first voyager borg queen actress talking to 7.

The other scene with the black box and drawer, it was either 7 or Torres checking on what she called the transwarp coils.
 
An episode name on the former still would be helpful, as I'm still scratching my head even with the details you provided.
 
Well, to be fair TOS and TNG stated that a journey like VOY's wouldn't take very long either.
True. In Where No One Has Gone Before the E-D travels 2.7m light years but would only take 300 years to get home. So it would travel 9000 ly in one year while Voyager could only do 1000. The E-D would have been home from the Delat Quadrant in eight years*.

*But then Voyager did it in seven! :)
 
I never thought the travel would be as stagnant like seasons 2, and 3. There were not enough progress going through the Delta Quadrant, and the stories were the same mostly every week. At some point I was hoping Voyager could get over their conflict and find some sort of mutual agreement.
Voyager should have been making more friends than enemies so new races would help them along the way and could warn them of hostile aliens who could be some trouble. Share something with other alien races so the ship could travel faster through foreign space.
I expected Voyager to travel at least 10,000 light years every season. There should've been a track record of Voyager being great ambassador of the Federation, but that ship was at times a complete embarrassment; constantly getting into bad situations which never had a resolutions.
 
I haven't ever understood why 7 of 9, with all her Borg knowledge, couldn't have build a transwarp coil or two to speed them on their way.
The same reason why they didn't use Tom's slug-tranformingly-fast transwarp (which was curable), it would have ended the series too fast.
 
The fighting in the first season was alluded to as being a result of killing the caretaker array. Apparently everybody wanted that thing for themselves. and everyone wanted voyager tech, which janeway felt giving away meant upending the local balance of power.
Look at how much damage seska did with transporter technology. And a replicator.
 
I never thought the travel would be as stagnant like seasons 2, and 3. There were not enough progress going through the Delta Quadrant, and the stories were the same mostly every week. At some point I was hoping Voyager could get over their conflict and find some sort of mutual agreement.
Voyager should have been making more friends than enemies so new races would help them along the way and could warn them of hostile aliens who could be some trouble. Share something with other alien races so the ship could travel faster through foreign space.
I expected Voyager to travel at least 10,000 light years every season. There should've been a track record of Voyager being great ambassador of the Federation, but that ship was at times a complete embarrassment; constantly getting into bad situations which never had a resolutions.

That would have made the series very dull. Everyones friendly and makes the journey fast and easy. What would be the point? It seemed too easy at times as it was.
 
Problem was that they got complaints over staying in the same area too much and running into the same people too much.
 
The crew should've resolved those issues before leaving, this is from bad writing. The entire series suffered from this. Also the ship would take a pounding every week forgetting they're no where near Star Fleet territory. The stories never suited the kind of world the producers wanted to create.
 
By the end of the series, it should have been a rigged together, falling apart ship, short on supplies, a very rag tag group of survivors. Their should have been a ton of casualties along the way. There should have been actual stakes. And god, any Captain but Janeway....
 
By the end of the series, it should have been a rigged together, falling apart ship, short on supplies, a very rag tag group of survivors. Their should have been a ton of casualties along the way. There should have been actual stakes. And god, any Captain but Janeway....

Why? Kirk and Picard did okay when the exact same thing happened to them. Why should VOY's crew be so incompetent?
 
Why? Kirk and Picard did okay when the exact same thing happened to them. Why should VOY's crew be so incompetent?

Neither of them were stranded for that long. Not every crew in the world can be perfect. The mixed crew (Maquis/Federation) should have been more splintered; more disagreements over what moves to make; just more conflict in general. The whole tone of the show should have been different.

Just an opinion.
 
Neither of them were stranded for that long. Not every crew in the world can be perfect. The mixed crew (Maquis/Federation) should have been more splintered; more disagreements over what moves to make; just more conflict in general. The whole tone of the show should have been different.

Just an opinion.

That's only enough plot for one season, anymore and it just gets silly that they can't get over themselves and work together. It's not like the Maquis and Feds were diehard enemies in the first place.
 
Once the crew is splintered into different viewpoints, its not a Maquis vs Fed thing anymore.... its different ideaologies on survival, and what it takes to be one. It definitely could have had ongoing conflicts...
 
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