Nimoy stopped speaking to Shatner

[maneth]

There's always two sides to every story. Nimoy's no longer here to tell us his version. Shatner comes across as a guy with a pretty big ego, so I can all too well imagine him going against Nimoy's wishes and using him against his will in his documentary.

The Daily Mail is a tabloid, although IMO not as bad as The Mirror or The Sun. TDM occasionally gets things right. They did a story recently on the Soldiers of Odin, Finnish anti-immigrant vigilantes. The story's sensationalist like tabloid stories usually are but basically honest and factual.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

The Daily Mail appears to be simply regurgitating what they vacuumed out of Shatner's book. If so, it's not their own reporting. They're just acting as a pass-through.

 

[Ronald Held]

Any way to interview Susan Nimoy and ask her about the lack of communication?

 

[Drone]

Maybe. I watched the episode of Shatner's Raw Nerve were Nimoy appeared, and they seemed every inch the friendly old Jews they were: relaxed, comfortable, entertaining. It was exactly they way you hoped they would be with each other. That episode was January 2009, according to imdb.

Shatner's "The Captains" was 2011, over 2 years later. So if Shatner offended Nimoy during the making of The Captains, it would have been after the last time I saw them together.

I suppose I should take it for granted that your choice to describe the two as friendly old Jews, was to extol the characteristics you followed up by enumerating? No other reason to focus on that aspect of their identities, either subtle or overt, right?

 

[Terok Nor]

This is sad if it's true. Kinda gives another reason why Shatner didn't attend Nimoy's funeral other than being booked for a charity event.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

The entire TOS ensemble seem to be quite a temperamental crew to one degree or another, tbh. The exception being Kelley I suppose.

True, but I will also consider the "brother" analysis from Nimoy's son. He would know more than outsiders.

 

[johnnybear]

We want them to be friends don't we because their characters on Trek were blood brothers! We love to think they were close on the show but we know there were troubles back then. Troubles they got over enough for Nimoy to be Shat's best man at his third marriage! I always wondered why he wasn't best man at his fourth marriage though?
JB

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Troubles they got over enough for Nimoy to be Shat's best man at his third marriage! I always wondered why he wasn't best man at his fourth marriage though?

I read that Nimoy was Shatner's best man at three of his four weddings. I would assume that would be every one except Shatner's first marriage, as that obviously would've been well before TOS.

 

[CrazyMatt]

Sad, truly sad... if true.

 

[A beaker full of death]

I suppose I should take it for granted that your choice to describe the two as friendly old Jews, was to extol the characteristics you followed up by enumerating? No other reason to focus on that aspect of their identities, either subtle or overt, right?

I was wondering this myself... speaking as a less than friendly middle aged Jew...

 

[2takesfrakes]

I just hope The Public keeps this situation in mind, the next time they want to judge and torment Shatner on not attending a funeral, or anything else they want to hand judgment on him for. Somehow, though, I doubt it ...

 

[stardream]

We might be reading too much into this. My brother lived less than twenty minutes away and we didn't communicate a lot before he died last January (an early death was not unexpected. He had many complications from diabetes) but there was no feud. We were just living our separate lives and going about our business. While we were friendly we both had separate interests and philosophies of life so after the pleasantries we didn't have a lot to say to each other. We saw each other at family gatherings. I do regret not taking the time to see him more but there are no regrets about unfinished business. From my point of view when he passed away we were on good terms.

 

[Taranis]

People just stop communicating over time, its something that has happened to me and other's here after reading through this thread.
I have a friend who up until last year we talk a lot, now not a word and I known him for over 38 years.. he was not bad towards me nor I him. he lives in another country now . it happens.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

The perfect ending to this would be if Shatner couldn't attend his own funeral, because his body had a commitment at a second memorial service. He's a busy guy.

 

[Wingsley]

So Shatner and Nimoy were stars of a show that was on NBC 50 years ago. There's nothing etched in stone either way... they could've been pals, they could've been feuding, or they could've been "meh" toward each other. I imagine they were focused on doing their jobs and thus regarded each other as co-workers at the time. As for the movies, well, there were times they briefly worked together and saw each other and longer times when they were off doing other things with their lives. It's not like they were neighbors or worked together on the same assembly line for 30 years.

Why do these two have to have either vivid friendship or antipathy? Work relationships, even productive partnerships, can come from a broader range of possibilities. Just because they portrayed officers who worked well and had close friendships on a spaceship doesn't mean they had anything resembling that in real life.

 

[HIjol]

The perfect ending to this would be if Shatner couldn't attend his own funeral, because his body had a commitment at a second memorial service. He's a busy guy.

If ANYbody could manage to attend his own Funeral, it would be James Tiberius Shatner!!!

Talk about the be-all end-all installment of "Raw Nerve"!!!

"Damn it, Bones...I'm Dead!"

"Don't you have any feelings about THAT, Spock?"

 

[johnnybear]

The perfect ending to this would be if Shatner couldn't attend his own funeral, because his body had a commitment at a second memorial service. He's a busy guy.

Very good!
JB

 

[johnnybear]

So Shatner and Nimoy were stars of a show that was on NBC 50 years ago. There's nothing etched in stone either way... they could've been pals, they could've been feuding, or they could've been "meh" toward each other. I imagine they were focused on doing their jobs and thus regarded each other as co-workers at the time. As for the movies, well, there were times they briefly worked together and saw each other and longer times when they were off doing other things with their lives. It's not like they were neighbors or worked together on the same assembly line for 30 years.

Why do these two have to have either vivid friendship or antipathy? Work relationships, even productive partnerships, can come from a broader range of possibilities. Just because they portrayed officers who worked well and had close friendships on a spaceship doesn't mean they had anything resembling that in real life.

We'd like them to have been as close as the characters they played I guess! And boy were they good in those roles. They genuinely convinced me as a schoolkid that they were the best of friends!
JB

 

[Amaris]

So Shatner and Nimoy were stars of a show that was on NBC 50 years ago. There's nothing etched in stone either way... they could've been pals, they could've been feuding, or they could've been "meh" toward each other. I imagine they were focused on doing their jobs and thus regarded each other as co-workers at the time. As for the movies, well, there were times they briefly worked together and saw each other and longer times when they were off doing other things with their lives. It's not like they were neighbors or worked together on the same assembly line for 30 years.

Why do these two have to have either vivid friendship or antipathy? Work relationships, even productive partnerships, can come from a broader range of possibilities. Just because they portrayed officers who worked well and had close friendships on a spaceship doesn't mean they had anything resembling that in real life.

Well, we like the characters, so we want the people who played them to be close friends as well. It doesn't always happen, but it's clear that Bill, Leonard, and De were very close, with Bill and Leonard being brothers in almost every respect. So whatever happened towards the end of Leonard's life bothers some of us, just like it would any situation where close friends had a falling out and one of them dies. That's something you can't go back and fix, because it's too late, and if the interview with Bill regarding his new book is any indication, it bothers him considerably.

 

[Ovation]

Here's a link to a brief interview with the Toronto Star. http://www.thestar.com/entertainmen...ar-bond-with-leonard-nimoy-in-new-memoir.html

And one with USA Today. http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...th-a-remarkable-man-william-shatner/80239270/

Seems the story of a falling out is true. But certainly not a rare thing when people have known each other for over 50 years.