Left Over TNG Scripts
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I have never heard of that. Especially Barge of the Dead. That was so obviously written for B'leana.
If that's true about Worf and Barge of the Dead, I wonder who he would have been trying to save from Grethor?
Still doesn't make sense because if they were going to recycle a Worf story from TNG, they could have used it with Worf in DS9: IE he was saving either K'Ehleyr or Jadzia Dax from Grethor.
Ds9 wasn't exactly short of it's own stories though. And they did their own version of getting Jadzia into Sto'vo'Kor anyhow.
Not the same writing staffs on both shows though, so there isn't really a "they".
DS9 Writers: There's this idea floating around for Worf, but we've got enough going on that we don't see a need to develop this.
VOY Writers: There was an idea floating around for Worf, but the DS9 writers never did anything with it. We could adapt it for Torres though!
I've never heard of this before, this is completely fabricated to create a thread. The plot is a personal story for B'Leana Torres, and I can't even see a tale involving Worf with the story told. Worf is a believer in Klingon 24th century myths, while B'Leana is a skeptic and has rejected her culture, if it centered on him; it would've been a boring episode because of the lack of conflict.
Yeah, but K'elyhr was a skeptic who rejected her culture. That would be the conflict.
I know Barge of the Dead was the only Voyager episode written by Ronald D Moore so I wouldn't be surprised if it was an idea he had floated in the TNG era but probably very different from what it became in Voyager.
I know Barge of the Dead was the only Voyager episode written by Ronald D Moore so I wouldn't be surprised if it was an idea he had floated in the TNG era but probably very different from what it became in Voyager.
According to legend Barge of the Dead was originally a DS9 story by Ron Moore that had been passed on as too costly at the time. (DS9 was spending their budget elsewhere on things like the Dominion War. Filler character stories were supposed to be cost savers.) After DS9 ended and Moore did some work for Voyager it got dusted off and used for B'leana. No idea what the original intended story arch in DS9 would have been. It is unlikely it would have been Jadzia as she was not simply written out but killed off for a business related reason. (Rumors are that that reason, her vultures of former Agents, a leftover from her days as a high end model, are why we still do not have DS9 HD conversions and clean ups.) So they probably would not have gone with a story that in any way touched on Terry Farrell. So maybe in some way related to Worf's parents?
I don't make up reasons to create a thread. As others have posted the idea has been around for a while so now you have officially heard of it. My mistake was in assuming it was a leftover idea from TNG when it was more likely to have been left over from DS9.
I like the idea that it might have been done for Worf's parents...but for all we know he might have had that 'dream' for an entirely different reason.
As others have said the original idea was probably rewritten to be more suitable for B'Elanna.
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I'm pretty sure the original idea for Worf going to Klingon hell involved him finding his father - it was this pitch for an episode to be 'Star Trek: KLINGON!' and was this philosophical tale about life, death, and the afterlife. It got rejected as too heavy at that point of the season and retooled into Soldiers of the Empire, but Ron Moore kept hold of the idea and managed to use it for B'Elanna during his brief time on Voyager's staff.
I love hearing about the VOY/TNG connection. Voyager complimented The Next Generation very well. I quite enjoy that, about the series.
??? But it was Bryan Fuller's story, and followed by a teleplay with his full credit on.
It's not possible Moore helped him with the story Fuller wanted to tell?
Legends are what they are... simply fantasies driven by people who want them to be something which was truly not.
Your mistake is implicating the idea was a leftover from DS9 which is something that is simply not true. Especially when the story would not have supported any of the wishful characters posters would had thought could fit. It's just not there. The story could only fit with B'Elanna, no probably suited anything.
From Memory Alpha concerning Barge of the Dead
- The basic plot line for this episode was originally intended to be seen in DS9: "Soldiers of the Empire". Ronald D. Moore's original idea for the episode was for Worf and the crew of the IKS Rotarran to answer a distress call from a Klingon colony. When they arrive, they find all of the inhabitants missing. Nearby is a lake surrounded in a mysterious fog, and when they approach it, a boatman appears and takes them to the entrance to Gre'thor. Once inside, they meet a friend of Martok's, who wants them to take him with them. And then they meet Worf's father,Mogh. There were a number of reasons that this particular story never made it into production. Firstly, Ira Steven Behr felt that the episode was trying to accomplish too much– showing both the realistic day-to-day operations of a Klingon Bird-of-Prey and a mythic journey to the afterlife. Behr also felt it was too late in the season to do such a philosophical show dealing with life, death and hell. As well as this, the concept proved to be too complex and expensive. After Moore transferred to the Voyager staff following the end of DS9, the basic premise was modified and made to work with Voyager, the end result being this episode. (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion)
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