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William Shatner is ready to return to Star Trek

Not happening anytime soon; Shatner easily commands attention as Kirk--Pine is not doing that.

Shatner hasn't played Kirk in 22 years, and Pine is just starting his career as the new Kirk, so your statement is baseless.

TNG only proved how lifeless it was, and is culturally nonexistent since (there was barely any media recognition of its 20th anniversary--unlike the mass coverage for TOS' 20th). TOS--with Shatner as its centerpiece--is the face of the franchise. TNG's cast and crew are not, and never will be.

TNG was hugely popular in its day, far more popular than TOS ever was in its day. How you personally feel about it is irrelevant when given the facts of its popularity. And now the original Trek is even more popular with its characters recast.

Get your head out of the TOS/Shatner delusion bubble.
 
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TNG was hugely popular in its day, far more popular than TOS ever was in its day.

Problem being that popularity seemed fleeting, at best. As soon as TNG was off the air, people seemed ready to move on.
 
I'd love to hear him recite the mission statement one last time, maybe at the end of Beyond. Yes, I know that he did at the end of TUC, but he isn't a young man anymore, the moment needs to be seized before it is too late.
 
I'd rather him do a documentary for the 50th. I've enjoyed all his Trek docs so far. I'd like to see what he can do with official Paramount/CBS backing.
 
At some point, we need to let go of these actors as these characters as they are just getting to old to believably portray them on the screen in any real capacity that works. I enjoyed them all - but I don't want to keep seeing them to the point they need to be hooked up to oxygen or using a Rascal/Hoveround scooter or a wheelchair.
I really don't want to see Shatner's (as Kirk) literal 'last breath' on screen myself. YMMV.

Now here's an idea that we can see if Shatner would bite at. Have him reprise Sean Kenney's iconic role from The Menagerie in a future reverie type sequence where Kirk is confined to a spiffy motorized wheelchair after he's been fucked up by theta or nucleonic radiation or some such. So he can get his 10 minutes of screen time, albeit with loads of necrotic tissue visible and the ability to simply beep, just like Pike, though he would be able to blink his eyes rather dramatically, perhaps. Think he'd sign up for that? :)
 
When they decided to kill Kirk off back in 1994 they must have been pretty confident that Trek could survive without him. Clearly it couldn't as they've recast him and the other TOS characters. I wonder what would have happened if the franchise had remained popular like Law & Order rather than flopped off the face of the earth for years. Would Kirk have been resurrected? Would he have been recast with a younger actor as a parallel universe version? Would Trek have thrived with all new characters and all new spin off? Sadly we'll never know but I still think killing Kirk was a dumb idea. Next to Spock he's the biggest character in Trek history. Why willingly do away with him when he could have appeared many more times? He could have saved Trek from a decade of tv dormancy by recurring on one of the spin offs.
 
When they decided to kill Kirk off back in 1994 they must have been pretty confident that Trek could survive without him. Clearly it couldn't as they've recast him and the other TOS characters.

The fact that the Prime universe petered out had nothing to do with Shatner or the character of James T. Kirk. Like every single other television show that went on too long, Star Trek simply got old and stale.

TNG should only have been five seasons long. Then, at best, they should have only produced ONE sequel show, produced several years after TNG went off the air, and that show should have lasted only five seasons as well. Instead, they milked Trek for all it was worth and ran it into the ground.
 
Well it worked for the Law & Order franchise. 25 years and still going strong. That could have been Star Trek.
 
TNG was hugely popular in its day, far more popular than TOS ever was in its day. How you personally feel about it is irrelevant when given the facts of its popularity. And now the original Trek is even more popular with its characters recast.

Get your head out of the TOS/Shatner delusion bubble.
WAS popular. Does/will it have a lasting legacy like TOS is the question.
 
Shatner hasn't played Kirk in 22 years, and Pine is just starting his career as the new Kirk, so your statement is baseless.

"just starting" is irrelevant. He does not need to play a character for decades to be compared to the actor who brought said character to life--just as Moore did not need his seven films to be compared to Connery out of the gates when Moore made his debut in Live and Let Die. If Pine has not cut the same cultural path as Kirk after two films, he's not going to, and there's no evidence to suggest the opposite.

TNG was hugely popular in its day, far more popular than TOS ever was in its day.

TNG suffered through two and a half seasons before finding a stronger audience appeal, and while it was first run--and the addition of four largely forgettable movies, TNG was never the cultural juggernaut that was and remains TOS. Like it or not. Post run, unlike TOS, TNG did not rapidly explode into a phenomenon that took on new lives. No network or fanbase was planning and/or calling for the return of TNG (unless you have countering information). Further, when it turned 20, the media largely ignored it--the opposite of the attention paid to TOS' 20th.

On a cultural level with characters, no average person makes casual references to Riker, Picard, Data or Geordi, in the way Shatner's Kirk and other TOS characters are regularly.

WAS popular. Does/will it have a lasting legacy like TOS is the question.

Maurice, I believe that question has been answered, since there's been more than two decades of time since the end of TNG on TV, and there's no legacy.
 
I used to feel like the powers that be at Star Trek were trying to forget TOS existed and trying to act like TNG was all there was, and I used to resent that.
 
Well it worked for the Law & Order franchise. 25 years and still going strong. That could have been Star Trek.
What? 18 years (1987 - 2005) on TV along with 5 theatrical feature films in that same period (I don't think Law and Order has one...yet); isn't successful enough for you? :eek::wtf::D
 
What? 18 years (1987 - 2005) on TV along with 5 theatrical feature films in that same period (I don't think Law and Order has one...yet); isn't successful enough for you? :eek::wtf::D

I meant continuing on tv. Trek on tv was dead before the last spin off even aired.
 
I think it would be a bad idea for him to return to Star Trek; he's too old, and I don't have a fixation to see him again on the big and small screen. He's had stints at returning to Trek, recently the Direct TV where he reharshed his Kirk role. Its enough, also I don't the new films to be clogged up by has beens waisting screen time from the JJtrek cast.
Another reason I wouldn't want Shatner to return is his waist line has become even larger than it was in the 90's. Shatner's too old to start going to a fat farm. If he wants to do another trek, he should finance it himself and release it online.
 
Another reason I wouldn't want Shatner to return is his waist line has become even larger than it was in the 90's.

That didn't stop James Doohan from reprising his role as Scotty. And nobody cared that Doohan was overweight because they were just happy to see him again.
 
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