Which is nonsense. Peters was on record as liking the first Abrams movie. His change came when he realized he could make cash bashing it.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Which is nonsense. Peters was on record as liking the first Abrams movie. His change came when he realized he could make cash bashing it.
It's just arrogance that irks me. I'm not a fan 'cuz I don't agree with him? Who made AP the keeper of Trek Fandom?
It's still theft. And they were making a lot of money, building a studio, trading on someone else's property. And as other people have pointed out, CBS/Paramount allowed fan films to be made. If someone can steal Star Trek IP to the tune of a million dollars--which is a lot of money... and then get a way with it, then, CBS/Paramount won't allow any fan films.
In that scenario, who is getting hurt by Axanar's theft? The fans.
Peters and Axanar shouldn't be allowed to profit on the back of other people's work. He took a salary, he's building a studio.
The irony is that in the beginning he said he would put $50k of his own money towards the project. If he had 50k of his own money why not use that to pay himself? rather than draw 38k (its actually much more than that, as most of you here already know) from the fans donations to pay himself.
Here is another thing no one has mentioned. There is absolutely no reason why he can not have a paying job and work on Axanar on the side. How can he say he works on Axanar full time. What has been done to show it's a full time job over the past 3 years??? I have a full time job myself, yet look at all the stuff I do. There is no reason in the world he should not have a regular job. He is not building the sets by himself, others are doing it. This is just another reason that him making a salary is troublesome.
Here is another thing no one has mentioned. There is absolutely no reason why he can not have a paying job and work on Axanar on the side. How can he say he works on Axanar full time. What has been done to show it's a full time job over the past 3 years??? I have a full time job myself, yet look at all the stuff I do. There is no reason in the world he should not have a regular job. He is not building the sets by himself, others are doing it. This is just another reason that him making a salary is troublesome.
The people who have the power to pay him to do Star Trek never hired him. In his mind, that gives him the power to hire and pay himself to do a job no one asked him to do and then whine like a child when called out.
"But it's a labor of love! We're working hard!"
You know who else worked hard to do what they loved? Hitler.
Oh yes.
"But it's a labor of love! We're working hard!"
You know who else worked hard to do what they loved? Hitler.
Oh yes.
[QUOTE="Squiggy, post: 11467791, member: 5980"
You know who else worked hard to do what they loved? Hitler.
Oh yes.[/QUOTE]
Godwin was right
and it's taken 422 pages to get there
You know who else worked hard to do what they loved? Hitler.
Oh yes.[/QUOTE]
Godwin was right
and it's taken 422 pages to get there
Godwin was right
That has to be some sort of internet record.
And now that the production has stopped what work is there to be done? No more Captain's Logs, fulfillment blogs, con going, giving interviews, podcasting, patch making, set building, etc. As I have said before, I wouldn't spend one more red cent on Axanar until I got the green light to proceed.
Watch AP try to collect unemployment
Godwin was right
and it's taken 422 pages to get there[/QUOTE]422? Perhaps you missed all the funny videos with some old German fellow, speaking in German with "translated" English subtitles. They started pretty early in this thread.
And the other Producers work at real jobs too--and, of course, dig deep into their wallets to make these silly things happen--without much notoriety. We get to dump hundreds or thousands of dollars into these things, and no one ever says "Boy, James' and Greg's sets are great!" (Note: we all go into it with open eyes, knowing the product is going to be pretty much the sole reward, with no real equity of any kind.)
I think you're right. The pages are all running together by this point.
I don't know how we'll survive another ten days without something fresh to chew on.
Godwin was right
I'm actually going to argue, Downfall video parodies, I don't believe, qualify as Godwinning a thread. I think that requires use of Hitler in an argument. Those were just making fun of the situation. Satire, perhaps. But, I do think Squiggy's recent mentioning of Hitler, that Godwinned the thread.
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