Spoilers STAR TREK BEYOND

[shapeshifter]

hehehehe bye-bye, Uglyprise!

Hey, I tried to like that ship. I even bought the model, twice!
I had to return it both times though because it is even more ugly, imo, in person than onscreen or in photos.

 

[Kemaiku]

I love it. Got nothing against the design at all unlike some who can't appreciate beauty.

But they're totalling it, we need to let go now.

Don't make someone make a Dead Starship Sketch out of this to drive it home.

 

[Khan 2.0]

Interesting comments from writer Jung

There were definitely times when we were sitting there together and we would both be like, "All right, this is just weird. We need to think of a really good Spock line.” Or whatever – A really good Bones quip.

We'd have some cool idea, but think, "Did they do that once in some Next Generation episode? Is that what's coming to us? Is that where we're getting it?"

It was stuff like that that came up.

http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/02/star-trek-beyond-writer-doug-jung-talks-script-simon-pegg/

 

[Franklin]

It's just a little torn into, it's still good, it's still good! [/Homer Simpson]

"No, no, no. He's stunned." [/Michael Palin]

The thing about the Enterprise is that it's almost like a character to me, at least. Saved the crew's life many times. It was a beautiful death scene in TSFS. Well deserved. Sad to see it doesn't get the crew through its five year mission this time.

 

[Ovation]

We don't know. There could be a massive time travel reset button. Not like Trek has never done that before. (Ducks and runs for cover )

 

[Nerys Myk]

We don't know. There could be a massive time travel reset button. Not like Trek has never done that before. (Ducks and runs for cover )

Nukes cover from orbit.

 

[Franklin]

We don't know. There could be a massive time travel reset button. Not like Trek has never done that before. (Ducks and runs for cover )

Or dual universes. Honestly, I see that shot of Spock in the USS Franklin jacket (with red trim?), and I do begin to wonder if that's our Spock -- . I mean, of course it is. But still -- . Weirder things have happened. (Right behind you ducking for cover.)

 

[Ovation]

Or, the whole thing is a holodeck simulation and Riker and Troi walk out onto the corridor of deck, uh, 31 of the Enterprise-D, complaining that the holonovel wasn't as good as the one where the engineer with the Southern twang sacrificed himself for his captain. (Looks for the transwarp beaming device Khan used to escape to the Klingon home-world )

 

[Franklin]

Or, the whole thing is a holodeck simulation and Riker and Troi walk out onto the corridor of deck, uh, 31 of the Enterprise-D, complaining that the holonovel wasn't as good as the one where the engineer with the Southern twang sacrificed himself for his captain. (Looks for the transwarp beaming device Khan used to escape to the Klingon home-world )

No. They would walk out saying, "Blue warp nacelles?"

 

[Ovation]

No. They would walk out saying, "Blue warp nacelles?"

 

[Paradise City]

hehehehe bye-bye, Uglyprise!

Hey, I tried to like that ship. I even bought the model, twice!
I had to return it both times though because it is even more ugly, imo, in person than onscreen or in photos.

I agree. It's just clunky looking. But I think there'll be a time-loop that'll restore the ship or they'll use some damn plot device like that. I really don't think they are just going to bin the ship after two movies.

 

[eyeresist]

Interesting comments from writer Jung
http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/02/star-trek-beyond-writer-doug-jung-talks-script-simon-pegg/

Thanks for link. This was particularly interesting:

One of the other things we were trying to determine while we were doing it, was what are all the inter-dynamics between these characters? I remember we were talking one day... "Have Chekov and Sulu ever had a conversation on-screen?" We went through the other two movies and they actually, literally, never had a conversation on-screen.

So just because he [Pegg] was there, he knows all that how it sort of went down and we were able to go, "Oh, there's an opportunity." Something where we can maybe build certain relationships that haven't been explored before.​

Have Chekov and Sulu had a conversation EVER?

 

[Khan 2.0]

"we're caught in a blizzard"

 

[fireproof78]

"She has very nice muscles."

 

[JohnD]

hehehehe bye-bye, Uglyprise!

Hey, I tried to like that ship. I even bought the model, twice!
I had to return it both times though because it is even more ugly, imo, in person than onscreen or in photos.

From the very beginning I wished that JJ went with the Koerner version of the starship Enterprise. There is a disconnect with the audience. From the command chair to the control panels to the brewery location the engineering section was filmed in to the exterior design of the model itself... people just never warmed up to the thing.

For a detailed look / comparison the best I've found is:

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/new_enterprise_comment.htm

In this shot you can see they altered the model pushing the dorsal forward

http://orig08.deviantart.net/3551/f/2008/316/7/6/the_new____old_enterprise_by_damon1984.jpg

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Anyway. the whole ship had a sense of disorientation about it. You just never knew where anyone was for sure (except maybe the Bridge) and then it was still completely alien.

On the old CBS Star Trek message boards (now closed) I suggested a story line where this Enterprise loses the battle with the Doomsday Machine and the ship the survivors get is a Koerner class dubbed Enterprise.1 (NCC 1701.1). This was before the 2013 movie.

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/318/4/3/My_Starship_Enterprise_by_GabeKoerner.jpg


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[BillJ]

Anyway. the whole ship had a sense of disorientation about it. You just never knew where anyone was for sure (except maybe the Bridge) and then it was still completely alien.

That is because you've only been exposed to it for a couple of hours.

 

[Franklin]

"we're caught in a blizzard"

Be safe and let me know when the snow reaches 29.5 inches. That was what was in my driveway last Sunday.

"She has very nice muscles."

OK. Sometimes I just raise an eyebrow and go by remarks I don't get. But this is one of the all time non-sequiturs. You even sent me to Google for the exact quote in case I was missing something. And because of your avatar, I read it Col. Potter's voice.

On topic: If the Franklin is an derelict, I wonder if this story has prime directive overtones (another society led astray by a Starfleet ship).
Another thing: The Franklin patch on Spock's jacket has an odd emblem inside the Starfleet chevron. Looks basically like one of the starbursts on the UFP emblem. Interesting that Spock is wearing the jacket in the first place. Clothing abandoned by crew? If the Franklin's a more contemporary ship and its crew is still around, are they among those on the forced march in the teaser?

I must say I at least feel I'm being properly teased. Hope another teaser/trailer/commercial comes out for the Super Bowl.

 

[fireproof78]

Be safe and let me know when the snow reaches 29.5 inches. That was what was in my driveway last Sunday.



OK. Sometimes I just raise an eyebrow and go by remarks I don't get. But this is one of the all time non-sequiturs. You even sent me to Google for the exact quote in case I was missing something. And because of your avatar, I read it Col. Potter's voice.

On topic: If the Franklin is an derelict, I wonder if this story has prime directive overtones (another society led astray by a Starfleet ship).
Another thing: The Franklin patch on Spock's jacket has an odd emblem inside the Starfleet chevron. Looks basically like one of the starbursts on the UFP emblem. Interesting that Spock is wearing the jacket in the first place. Clothing abandoned by crew? If the Franklin's a more contemporary ship and its crew is still around, are they among those on the forced march in the teaser?

I must say I at least feel I'm being properly teased. Hope another teaser/trailer/commercial comes out for the Super Bowl.

It wasn't meant as a non-sequitur. It was a reference to a single line exchange between Sulu and Chekov in Star Trek V. Reference this picture

So sorry for the confusion.

 

[eyeresist]

"we're caught in a blizzard"

"She has very nice muscles."

Obviously Pegg and Jung have some big shoes to fill.

Anyway. the whole ship had a sense of disorientation about it. You just never knew where anyone was for sure (except maybe the Bridge) and then it was still completely alien.

I think that was the point. It's the future! Up is down! Black is white! etc.
I didn't mind it. At least no-one can say it looked drab or clunky.

 

[Franklin]

It wasn't meant as a non-sequitur. It was a reference to a single line exchange between Sulu and Chekov in Star Trek V. Reference this picture

So sorry for the confusion.

You don't have to say you're sorry for my confusion.

Actually, Sulu and Chekov also exchanged lines in "Amok Time". Sulu said something about going to Altair one minute, then back to Vulcan the next. Chekov responded by saying he was getting space sick.

Of course, that's not conversation.

It could be an interesting thread in some forum: which of the "magnificent seven" TOS characters have had the least interaction with each other?