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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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I don't think CBS will C&D the rest of the films, but hey Alec, thanks for throwing all the rest of our productions under the bus.

Can't you see that by goading CBS to sue everybody he's actually helping you?
He obviously only has the fan community interests at heart. :whistle:
 
I don't think CBS will C&D the rest of the films, but hey Alec, thanks for throwing all the rest of our productions under the bus.
Tom, someone on Facebook is claiming Renegades was named as one of the 20 Does.... any truth to that claim? I checked pacer monitor and didn't see anything updated.
 
It's a bit dim revealing the legal strategy before they go to court - what is to stop CBS C&Ding all the other big fan films before they get to court? (unless that is the plan).

If they can't win in court, publicly giving a legal strategy is a good move. It keeps the Axanar donors from walking away, gives them reason to stay invested and maybe keep investing. It might be to add strength to their negotiating position.

And I fear all of this is now being done to add to the legend of Alec Peters, the visionary so dangerous to JJTrek he had to be shut down. I kinda wish they would let him make it just so people see it's not the ultimate Star Trek his fans think it must be.
 
Not true. How could that be anyways, CBS is sueing Axanar Productions, and the Does would be people that worked for Axanar. If STR was sued it would have to be a completely different lawsuit, as we are our own separate entity.

Yup, I didn't see how, and was shooting this guy down on FB.. but wanted to get the word from the you guys too.
 
I've been away from trekbbs for a while so probably this has been mentioned, but the team behind "Star Trek: Of Gods and Men" were possibly the first (?) to say "this is not a fan film."
 
"In fact, those that seem to have the problem, according to Peters, are those who are not donors.

"The donors, for the most part, are the ones who get it," he said. "They see the work we put into it, they feel the love on a daily basis from us. Unfortunately, you have a lot of people who have never been in business, and they have a problem with Alec paying himself.""


Did the interview change who they were quoting or was Alec talking in 3rd person?
 
However, it does make one wonder how some people manage to sleep at night...

...sadly, probably just fine.
 
Not true. How could that be anyways, CBS is sueing Axanar Productions, and the Does would be people that worked for Axanar. If STR was sued it would have to be a completely different lawsuit, as we are our own separate entity.

It's probably one of the Axanard Marines with the IQ of a raisin that made that up.
 
I don't think CBS will C&D the rest of the films, but hey Alec, thanks for throwing all the rest of our productions under the bus.

He's not just throwing other Star Trek fan films under the bus, he's throwing fan works under the bus. The possible waiver defense--although currently applied to trademark instead of copyright--is exactly the sort of thing writers such as GRRM fear happening if they permit fan fiction. You can bet money that there are other IP holders whose concern about fan works was only ameliorated by the fact that, a.) waiver applied to trademark and not copyright and b.) fans respected the IP holder's wishes. When you get a fan who not only is ignoring the IP holder's wishes, but also planning to claim in court that the use of the IP was valid because the IP holder didn't stop anyone else from using the IP, well, I wouldn't be surprised if IP holders decided that it was easier to disallow fan works than risk a court battle of their own.
 
Barring all fan works would be very bad PR for CBS, and I highly doubt they will go to that level. They have enough resources to sink Alec with out having to go so far as stopping all fan works.

I have mentioned before, if they argue wavier, Cbs will simply show all the things Axanar is doing (for profit studio, salaries, etc..) that other fan films have not done. This wavier argument will not hold.
 
If they can't win in court, publicly giving a legal strategy is a good move. It keeps the Axanar donors from walking away, gives them reason to stay invested and maybe keep investing.

I'm kinda hoping this does go to court just for the spectacle of AP having to testify, but I have a feeling he'll weasel out of it at the last second, pay some damages to CBS and he'll likely try to pocket the money he's been getting as side donations from "true believers" for "defense of real star trek".
 
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