CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Your post made me a little curious so I did some digging. I couldn't find anything through the CBS corporate pages, but I found this article from the American Historical Association. The key sentence is this:
"Massive internal library": Check
Access prohibited to the public: Check
I think I may have found my dream job.
To return to the topic at hand, if there's an archive then there will be archivists.
I can believe that studios would have film archives for their motion picture collections and I know studios keep archives for all the footage they shoot for the television series they produce. Also, I know for a fact studios house their disassembled sets (that might be re-used in the future) at off-site locations. (Disney, for example, has one such "archive" in Van Nuys, CA.)
But has there been any official word that there exists a Star Trek prop archive that CBS maintains?
But has there been any official word that there exists a Star Trek prop archive that CBS maintains?
The saddest part is how inevitable it is that Axanar will be absolutely crushed in court. They can't win, full stop. I don't want to "stand with CBS" because they don't need my support, they won before it even started.
Peters' egoism is just insane. When I think of it, I just hear Kirk saying "Captain Garth" and then the crazed corrective "I am Lord Garth!" bellowed back at him.
Peters' egoism is just insane. When I think of it, I just hear Kirk saying "Captain Garth" and then the crazed corrective "I am Lord Garth!" bellowed back at him.
I haven't found anything yet.
Most of the props from the Berman years were sold off years ago, by Peters' Propwerx company as it happens. I suppose that could have been where the "archivist" bit came in...
Well that may be, but if you get in that kind of trouble, I'd still hire a lawyer.
Yep. And, it take quite a guy doing "extraordinary things" to make a person actually be sympathetic to a big corporation like CBS/Paramount.
Apparently there is, or was, a real, large scale 'archivist' job for Trek at CBS:
from a Trekcast interview with Penny Juday (http://www.lcarscom.net/juday.htm):
AP's role as an archivist may have been somewhat less than this scope. Quoted in this blog he describes his role (http://startrekauction.blogspot.com/2013_01_01_archive.html):
from a Trekcast interview with Penny Juday (http://www.lcarscom.net/juday.htm):
You are the Star Trek archivist for the Paramount backlot -- what's that mean?
Backlot, whew again. I have been stockpiling since DS9 and trying to build the Star Trek archive wherever I could find space. Finally, 2 years ago, I managed to convince the backlot powers to let me have a room to store this wonderful source of Star Trek information. I (keep) any drawings that remain on the lot from any Star Trek show. I have models that were made for the directors, I have plexies that would have been thrown away, I have props that are waiting for use as research; I even have the 6ft salamander that Janeway turned into. Other departments are now finding out there is such a resource, so for example, the home entertainment department is using the documentaries being made for the DVDs.
I also keep inventories of the warehouse, like all the models used for shooting, where the set pieces are, and the props, as examples. This also comes in handy for the features and the work I do there as it all ties in. Since we use the Enterprise E, we still have all the drawings available from the last feature. This saves thousands in redrawing and rebuilds when it already exists.
As the archivist, I am also involved in the Star Trek exhibits that are set up all over the world
Backlot, whew again. I have been stockpiling since DS9 and trying to build the Star Trek archive wherever I could find space. Finally, 2 years ago, I managed to convince the backlot powers to let me have a room to store this wonderful source of Star Trek information. I (keep) any drawings that remain on the lot from any Star Trek show. I have models that were made for the directors, I have plexies that would have been thrown away, I have props that are waiting for use as research; I even have the 6ft salamander that Janeway turned into. Other departments are now finding out there is such a resource, so for example, the home entertainment department is using the documentaries being made for the DVDs.
I also keep inventories of the warehouse, like all the models used for shooting, where the set pieces are, and the props, as examples. This also comes in handy for the features and the work I do there as it all ties in. Since we use the Enterprise E, we still have all the drawings available from the last feature. This saves thousands in redrawing and rebuilds when it already exists.
As the archivist, I am also involved in the Star Trek exhibits that are set up all over the world
AP's role as an archivist may have been somewhat less than this scope. Quoted in this blog he describes his role (http://startrekauction.blogspot.com/2013_01_01_archive.html):
In 2008, I started Propworx, a company dedicated to selling TV and movie screen used props and costumes, and was fortunate enough to handle the auctions for some big-name properties. I sold the collections of Star Trek legends Mike and Denise Okuda and Doug Drexler. My love for Star Trek and preserving the history of the show was even tapped by CBS, and I now assist in preserving and cataloging the extensive CBS collection that is part of the Star Trek exhibit that travels the world.
Apparently it's only on the 2009 releases, put out alongside the Blu-rays. Memory Alpha also mentions that James Cawley is involved?^
Haven't updated to blu-ray for the movies yet. Is it on the DVDs?
Of course it is because the joke is on Peters. He may or may not be laughing, but I sure am.
If Axanar has a brilliant script and the books are all squeaky clean, then the IP infringement might be held by some fans as a principled opposition even after a loss in court.
But it is a hell of a phaser on overload strategy, putting oneself squarely between a media conglomerate and its multigenerational paying audience, and imagining this industry in particular lacks perspective, experience, means, and the will to deal with what it sees as a revenue interloper, and will stand aside and not show you to the transporter.
But it is a hell of a phaser on overload strategy, putting oneself squarely between a media conglomerate and its multigenerational paying audience, and imagining this industry in particular lacks perspective, experience, means, and the will to deal with what it sees as a revenue interloper, and will stand aside and not show you to the transporter.
Of course it is because the joke is on Peters. He may or may not be laughing, but I sure am.
Oh, I'm sure there are those who feel Peters is getting some poetic justice...and laughing at his predicament as well.
;-)
No one can post a question or challenging information on Axanar company 'discussions' (fb, etc.) online, its removed instantly. That is, alternative interpretations of the official corporate output are not welcome, and the audience is the official property of the corporation, its not a group of fans who are permitted rally to appropriate Axanar's future for themselves outside of the bounds of the IP of Axanar.
Setting aside whether any justice is deserved, the censorship certainly is ironic.
Guilty.
I wish no harm on anyone just because I disagree with them, but in this instance...
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