CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

[The Transformed Man]

So, on the Axanar Coffee front, do you believe it was Hansa who received a C&D, Axanar Productions, or did Alec buy a clue and preemptively shut it down?

I know some people contacted the coffee company AND Shopify, mentioning the lawsuit, so this might be Shopify going "whoa", get us the fuck away from that!

That makes sense... About the only thing surrounding this whole circus that does.

 

[Maurice]

NEW BLOG: The Half-Assed Guide to "Star Trek" Copyright Litigation.

You've put so much work into sorting all that out that I'd say it's three-quarters-assed at least.

Now with 1.5 asscheeks!

 

[Tim Thomason]

No wonder Gerrold is mucking around in fan films these days. There's no way someone like that is going to ever get near new Trek with that kind of rude display toward CBS, Paramount and Abrams. Ditto Peters and Burnett.

Gerrold's professional involvement with Star Trek ended in 1987.

Not true! He was allowed on set during "Trials and Tribble-ations".

 

[Red Shirt]

Plans for Ares Studios.... From Axanar Podcast #20, right in at the 45:00minute mark

http://www.trek.fm/star-trek-axanar-the-official-podcast-episode-directory/

ROB: “I can see that we might have our own [...] internet satellite streaming channel that will come all over the world and it’ll all come back here to Ares Studios and we can custom design entertainment in ten years. People will come up with ideas the same way that Amazon is having a bake-off with their pilots--they’ll make pilots and depending on feedback, they’ll go and make a series out of something. Well they’re going to have their own...they have their own distribution network already in place. If you want to watch an Amazon Original, you go to Amazon and watch it via streaming. I could see us having ten channels in the future of not just Star Trek programming but all kinds of programming that we’re going to create. You and I are working on a project with David Gerrold that would be perfect for this.

ALEC: “Absolutely”

ROB: “And it would be going directly to Ares Studios subscribers or Axanar subscribers. We might have a fan base worldwide of 50 million people that are all donating, you know, five bucks or 9.95 a month to get what we’re producing which is sort of what we want to do. I mean, if you’re thinking about in the long run, we want to produce programming and entertainment whether it’s movies or shows or podcasts like this one that are specifically targeted to the fan. The discerning fan, who has a wide breadth of knowledge on many different subjects that we’re trying to touch on.

ALEC: “Yeah, I mean why do we not have SyFy Channel turned on constantly all day long. Shouldn’t we? I mean I...listen...I did ten years ago or whenever it was the Irwin Allen channel...I mean, it was on all the time because I love that stuff. But nowadays there’s such dreck on SyFy Channel. They’ve really gotten rid of all the shows that we really want to watch. The ‘Battlestar Galacticas’. And now they’re like ‘maybe we were wrong about that. Maybe we need to come back...’ Yeah, you do! And because there’s no one place for...what a phenomenal genre. How big is science fiction? There’s great science fiction movies that come out and get enormous audiences. But there’s no one place where you can go in and go, ‘I’ll just turn this on and leave it on all day long’ because after Star Trek, they’ve got Battlestar Galactica and then Lost in Space and then they’ve got you name it. Yeah, so, I think we’re all in the same place and talking to fans who have become really good friends of mine through Axanar, they all want the same thing.

So basically Peters wants to build an entertainment empire.

 

[The Transformed Man]

 

[BillJ]

So basically Peters wants to build an entertainment empire.

By the time CBS is done with him, he likely won't have a pot to piss in.

 

[SuperSpaceMan]

dude should be Obama's press secretary... He is slicker than snot with those answers

 

[TheSeeker]

I gave up catching up on this thread at post #1800. I assume not much has changed since then?

 

[Mudd]

Well, the FB thing with Burnett was fun. What do you suppose he thought he was accomplishing - just performing for the pro-Axanar readership?

 

[BillJ]

Well, the FB thing with Burnett was fun. What do you suppose he thought he was accomplishing - just performing for the pro-Axanar readership?

If I was pro-Axanar, I'd be very disheartened after that round.

 

[SuperSpaceMan]

Well, the FB thing with Burnett was fun. What do you suppose he thought he was accomplishing - just performing for the pro-Axanar readership?

Probably... He didn't answer much...

 

[Woulfe]

I gave up catching up on this thread at post #1800. I assume not much has changed since then?

Well Axanar Coffee has been nuked from orbit, for starters...

Also folks on #StandWithCBS have posted links & images to the CBS rules for fan-films thread from here...

Burnett visited #StandWithCBS & avoided answering questions...

I think should bring you up to date...

 

[TheSeeker]

Did that just happen within the last few hours? I'm a member of that group and didn't see that.

 

[BillJ]

Did that just happen within the last few hours? I'm a member of that group and didn't see that.

Yep.

 

[Karzak]

It happened within the past two hours, yes.

 

[TheSeeker]

That would explain it. I just got back from playing hockey.

 

[Red Shirt]

No wonder Gerrold is mucking around in fan films these days. There's no way someone like that is going to ever get near new Trek with that kind of rude display toward CBS, Paramount and Abrams. Ditto Peters and Burnett.

I'm not in the business but it seems to me Gerrold, Peters and Burnett are rapidly burning their own bridges like a trio of pyromaniacs.

 

[Red Shirt]

So basically Peters wants to build an entertainment empire.

By the time CBS is done with him, he likely won't have a pot to piss in.

and not even a production studio window to throw said pot through.

 

[Woulfe]

No wonder Gerrold is mucking around in fan films these days. There's no way someone like that is going to ever get near new Trek with that kind of rude display toward CBS, Paramount and Abrams. Ditto Peters and Burnett.

I'm not in the business but it seems to me Gerrold, Peters and Burnett are rapidly burning their own bridges like a trio of pyromaniacs.

I think they'll burn so many bridges that even Star Trek fans will get some of their wrath, heck they seem to be hell bent to do that anyway w/ their "Real" fans garbage they keep going on about.

 

[E-DUB]

Optimum outcome: Peters loses everything. Not just for the whole IP business, but for the fuckover committed on the fans he supposedly has such high regard for. People like Tobias, Sean Torongeau (I went to school with a Torongeau, BTW) get treated like the dupes they were whose only crime was wanting to be part of some new great thing.

Other fan films get left alone as long as they don't make the same kinds of "mistakes".

CBS/Paramount acquires all assets of Aries Studio, which would, of course, include Axanar and all related material. They polish up the script and do it as a straight-to-DVD feature. And actually get tons of good publicity out of it, as well as whetting the appetite for the new series.

That's a win/win for everybody but Peters.