It doesn't even say it goes to "the production of Axanar" -- it literally says the money you spend on that coffee is going straight into their pockets.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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It doesn't even say it goes to "the production of Axanar" -- it literally says the money you spend on that coffee is going straight into their pockets.
You know, I still can't fathom why a 20 min talking head greenscreen short film and one 3 minute Vulcan scene is greeted (to the axanauts /axanorks or whatever they are called) like the second coming, that Peters etc "get" Star Trek more than anyone else.
It was okay. Not outstanding but okay. The Fx looked good but surely that's Tobias Richter. Am I the only one that thought the costumes looked cheap? And that Richard Hatch looked ridiculous?
Don't watch a lot of fan films but much preferred all the New Voyages / Continues stuff.
If Paramount / Cbs wanted to shut down those guys I could at least understand the anger. They would be shutting down something that actually exists.
You should dig up the old Axanar thread. It's full of people heaping praise and adoration for it. Except for maybe one person. But the love for this thing is absolutely out there, inexplicable though it might be.
Brilliant.
So when I type "axanarcoffee.com" into my address bar, I get a page that says the shop is currently unavailable. If I go to any of the other pages directly, they're still available and the links on them lead back to the home page.
So, you're right. For all intents and purposes, it's still there.
I'm just going to be over here shaking my head in amazement.
I just noticed that at the bottom of Axanar coffee site:
Copyright © 2016, Axanar Coffee
So Alec Peters is copyrighting CBS/Paramount IP? Wow, CBS/Paramount's attorneys are going to have field day with that.
"http://axanarcoffee.com" leads to an unavailable shopify site. "http://www.axanarcoffee.com" leads to the current site. This may have always been the case.
He's wearing a completely different baldric.
Hey, we have a new court filing. No, not a formal answer from Axanar or a motion for an injunction, just a document notifying the Register of Copyrights that an infringement lawsuit has been filed relative to, um, copyrights registered with the Register of Copyrights. This is a standard notice required by law, nothing more.
I won't deny that before I learned about all of the behind the scenes drama, and before the lawsuit, I thought Axanar look great, and if I had the extra $ I might have even donated to it. Now after all of this, I'm not going to watch it.You know, I still can't fathom why a 20 min talking head greenscreen short film and one 3 minute Vulcan scene is greeted (to the axanauts /axanorks or whatever they are called) like the second coming, that Peters etc "get" Star Trek more than anyone else.
It was okay. Not outstanding but okay. The Fx looked good but surely that's Tobias Richter. Am I the only one that thought the costumes looked cheap? And that Richard Hatch looked ridiculous?
Don't watch a lot of fan films but much preferred all the New Voyages / Continues stuff.
If Paramount / Cbs wanted to shut down those guys I could at least understand the anger. They would be shutting down something that actually exists.
You should dig up the old Axanar thread. It's full of people heaping praise and adoration for it. Except for maybe one person. But the love for this thing is absolutely out there, inexplicable though it might be.
Everybody keeps talking about Tony Todd's picture still being up on the homepage, but that's actually just the cast of Prelude to Axanar which did have Todd, so there's actually nothing wrong with that.
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I would think that if it were the original costume then there would have been a blog post on the matter.
Any idea why eich of the series listed has the premier episode???
Okay. I see no Trademarks or Copyrights called out on the specific Axanar Coffee pages other than Copyright © 2016, Axanar Coffee. As CBS doesn't have a Trademark on Axanar so they can probably get away with that as you can't Copyright a word.
I won't deny that before I learned about all of the behind the scenes drama, and before the lawsuit, I thought Axanar look great, and if I had the extra $ I might have even donated to it. Now after all of this, I'm not going to watch it.You know, I still can't fathom why a 20 min talking head greenscreen short film and one 3 minute Vulcan scene is greeted (to the axanauts /axanorks or whatever they are called) like the second coming, that Peters etc "get" Star Trek more than anyone else.
It was okay. Not outstanding but okay. The Fx looked good but surely that's Tobias Richter. Am I the only one that thought the costumes looked cheap? And that Richard Hatch looked ridiculous?
Don't watch a lot of fan films but much preferred all the New Voyages / Continues stuff.
If Paramount / Cbs wanted to shut down those guys I could at least understand the anger. They would be shutting down something that actually exists.
You should dig up the old Axanar thread. It's full of people heaping praise and adoration for it. Except for maybe one person. But the love for this thing is absolutely out there, inexplicable though it might be.
Everybody keeps talking about Tony Todd's picture still being up on the homepage, but that's actually just the cast of Prelude to Axanar which did have Todd, so there's actually nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, they discretely changed the heading at some point after late September. It used to read "The Cast of Axanar."
(Link to the Internet Archive Wayback Machine for reference.)
It says right at the bottom "Plaintiffs own the copyrights for all episodes of each Star Trek television series and have identified the copyright registrations for the first episode of each television series."
Listing every episode would be a waste, no judge is going to doubt that they own the copyright on them all.
It's a standard practice when listing a television series. Each episode is separately registered with the copyright offices, but for purposes of this filing, it's sufficient to list just the pilot (as all the subsequent episodes are essentially "derivative works" based on said pilot).
I remember the MPAA vs. filesharing legal MIRVs of yesteryear, so that probably colors my opinion of all of this. My understanding, though, is that it would only apply in cases where precedent needs to be set, which I don't think this is; others have to have gone after at least one fan film at some point in the past. But again, not a lawyer, and I could be very wrong on all points. :-)
I still think we would have at least seen C&D or DMCA notice though if they were going to go after others. Then again, they haven't even issued a DMCA notice for Prelude as far as we know, so who can say?
Peters was a member here for some time, so I went digging in the old Axanar thread. Let me tell you -- it's almost comical now, seeing how he refers to himself in the third person here. If I can find this shit, you can bet your bottome quatloo CBS and its lawyers will too.
This is true - but wouldn't you think that they would have issued C&D's to the others at least? Even just the threat of being sued would shut a lot of them down in and of itself, regardless of if they had ever sued Axanar in the first place.
That's the part of the strategy I don't get if they're trying to go after everyone - well, that and the fact that they've been awfully nice to a couple of others.
Incredible. So let me see if I've got this straight.
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So what we've got here, folks, is a nice-looking, professionally-designed e-commerce website (I shrunk the zoom level to make more of the USS Ares visible; the gray bar with the buying controls on it would normally be bottom-aligned on the browser screen). I see a Klingon dressed in a uniform that is a near-copy of what General Chang wore in Star Trek VI, a starship that looks like a near-clone of a Klingon Battlecruiser, and another starship that looks like a kissing cousin of the Starship Enterprise. Coffee is for sale on this e-commerce site--hell, they even take Diner's Club and JCB!
I also see that the site is
If this isn't a blatant, open-and-shut, rampant misappropriation of the intellectual property of CBS and/or Paramount for a for-profit enterprise (pun unintended), I don't know what is.
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So what we've got here, folks, is a nice-looking, professionally-designed e-commerce website (I shrunk the zoom level to make more of the USS Ares visible; the gray bar with the buying controls on it would normally be bottom-aligned on the browser screen). I see a Klingon dressed in a uniform that is a near-copy of what General Chang wore in Star Trek VI, a starship that looks like a near-clone of a Klingon Battlecruiser, and another starship that looks like a kissing cousin of the Starship Enterprise. Coffee is for sale on this e-commerce site--hell, they even take Diner's Club and JCB!
I also see that the site is
Not CBS. Not Paramount. Axanar Coffee.
If this isn't a blatant, open-and-shut, rampant misappropriation of the intellectual property of CBS and/or Paramount for a for-profit enterprise (pun unintended), I don't know what is.
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