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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Star Trek itself has several...
Fuck, that's some ghosts from that past right there lol
Glad somebody got the double meaning
Likely, yes. Let's be honest, for whatever his public image (and I'm not commenting as to his personal life, cause I don't know that side), everything about him from people that's had business dealings with Gene point to never getting between him and a dollar when it came to making money on Star Trek.
Yes, he would of sued Alac & Co, day 1, long before it got to the point where it is now.
Don't know if this was shared here yet - http://1701news.com/node/980/axanar-will-ruin-fan-trek-everyone.html
Is anyone else seeing Legal Zoom ads in the sidebar? Kinda amusing.
Is anyone else seeing Legal Zoom ads in the sidebar? Kinda amusing.
No i see Ikea ads as I have been on their site today... I assume at some point you must have Googled some legal information maybe?
Who the hell is Michael Hinman, and why should I care what he thinks, (even if I happen to agree with him)?
Its a random ad display based on your google searches over 24 hours. For me, it displays nipple piercing cleansers and airline tickets to North Korea
I'd never have worked with him in the first place. He had no track-record in filmmaking, and his hubris, bad temper and knee-jerky reactions put him on my "steer clear of" list a long time ago.
I never implied any of that. I simply said Paramount doesn't expect work for "freebies".
There was nothing "overboard" about my very simple statement.
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Yeah I don't think I'd be comfortable working with Peters in any field - film or otherwise -after this debacle.
Meanwhile...
I wonder if these people would be okay with folks coming into their house and squatting for free, if they had enough signatures?
The thing I've found most humorous about this is on the one hand, the producers call Axanar a "ground-breaking independent Star Trek film," then say on the other hand, Peters says, "We're doing what other fan films have done for thirty years."
I wonder what the average donation to this project was? The price of a movie ticket, perhaps?
Probably most if not all prior fan films that were derivative of "Star Trek" were at least technically copyright infringements, but just not worth pursuing because they did no real damage. At first, Axanar may not have even seemed like a big deal.
But I don't blame CBS for drawing the line here. The availability of crowdsourcing, relatively affordable high-quality FX production equipment, and more ways than even ten or fifteen years ago for mass viewings of the product does at least threaten the integrity of the original product (and not just Trek, but all franchises where fan films are made). After Axanar, whose to say someone won't come up with a $3 million professional production values "fan film" for "Star Trek" or whatever?
I wonder what the average donation to this project was? The price of a movie ticket, perhaps?
Probably most if not all prior fan films that were derivative of "Star Trek" were at least technically copyright infringements, but just not worth pursuing because they did no real damage. At first, Axanar may not have even seemed like a big deal.
But I don't blame CBS for drawing the line here. The availability of crowdsourcing, relatively affordable high-quality FX production equipment, and more ways than even ten or fifteen years ago for mass viewings of the product does at least threaten the integrity of the original product (and not just Trek, but all franchises where fan films are made). After Axanar, whose to say someone won't come up with a $3 million professional production values "fan film" for "Star Trek" or whatever?
It's the New Shimmer of fanfilms! (link)
Kickstarter stats:
Backers: 8547
Average Pledge Per Backer: $75 <—
Funded: $638,446 of $100,000
Dates: Jul 25th -> Aug 24th (30 days)
Project By: Axanar Productions
Such extreme and egregious cognitive dissonance is the only language Peters understands. That, and bloviating.
Crowdsourcing is a big part of it, yes. I remember some people being strongly opposed and disappointed with entities like Warner Bros. and people like Zach Braff using it to fund their pet projects (Veronica Mars, Wish I Was Here) when there were plenty of by-the-book, standard procedure ways of either getting the films made or not, and that doing so via crowdsourcing would diminish the ability of other, upstart filmmakers who could really use the help and exposure.
Clearly, those projects as well as Axanar (and New Voyages and Continues, the two other biggest fundraisers in fan film community) are having that same effect. I would not be surprised at all to find CBS/Paramount trying to include Kickstarter and Indiegogo as part of their complaint with the lawsuit for not abiding their own "Don't use our service to make money off other people's IP" rules.
How about we launch a kickstarter for some beer, food and hookers...
Erm.............
I mean to help us film a fan movie about the early days of Trek BBS?
Erm.............
I mean to help us film a fan movie about the early days of Trek BBS?
I'm wondering... MST3K raised a ton of money though Kickstarter ( run by the shows creator )
Did Alac see that success & get it in his head to do the same ?
Wouldn't put it past him to think they got millions & millions, I can do that too.
MST3K broke the record for largest crowd funding ever in Kickstarter history.
Did Alac see that success & get it in his head to do the same ?
Wouldn't put it past him to think they got millions & millions, I can do that too.
MST3K broke the record for largest crowd funding ever in Kickstarter history.
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