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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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JoeRalat said:
Alec cause all of this. He made a big deal over superficial crap and not the main purpose of the fan film. The story. It had to do more with out doing other fan films (To get a series) and spending money without thinking what is best for the project.
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Alec did this for another reason, IMHO-to out do the official Star Trek movies from Paramount and Bad Robot. He hates the Abramsverse, and thinks that he can do a better job.

Sadly, I fear that in the court of public opinion (check out all of the comments about this matter in the comments section of most of the online sections of the pen and ink newspapers) he's already won-people hate the new movie's trailer and want it to fail, and are saying that they will boycott the next movie. These fans of course, are the small percent that think they speak for the whole of fandom in this matter (the same thing that happened with Superman Returns back in 2006, leading to what happened with Man of Steel in 2013-which everybody then hated [due to nostalgia] because it was nothing like Superman Returns!) Never mind what Alec Peters and the Axanar bunch have done to the other fan productions with this bullshit maneuvering over the past two years.

Alec Peters is now my villain of 2015.
 
"He hates the Abramsverse, and thinks that he can do a better job. "

He hates it so much he steals composition and designs from it...
 
gazomg said:
I can accept Axanar might not be everyone's cup of tea, and some have zero interest in it.
But it is pretty pathetic by those who seem to revel in what is happening, if they dont like it why revel in what looks like its demise.
Its like some people are acting like Axanar personally offended them
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Kinda the same way some people act about the real Trek movies that Paramount makes.
 
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Shaka Zulu said:
JoeRalat said:
Alec cause all of this. He made a big deal over superficial crap and not the main purpose of the fan film. The story. It had to do more with out doing other fan films (To get a series) and spending money without thinking what is best for the project.
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Alec did this for another reason, IMHO-to out do the official Star Trek movies from Paramount and Bad Robot. He hates the Abramsverse, and thinks that he can do a better job.

Sadly, I fear that in the court of public opinion (check out all of the comments about this matter in the comments section of most of the online sections of the pen and ink newspapers) he's already won-people hate the new movie's trailer and want it to fail, and are saying that they will boycott the next movie. These fans of course, are the small percent that think they speak for the whole of fandom in this matter (the same thing that happened with Superman Returns back in 2006, leading to what happened with Man of Steel in 2013-which everybody then hated [due to nostalgia] because it was nothing like Superman Returns!) Never mind what Alec Peters and the Axanar bunch have done to the other fan productions with this bullshit maneuvering over the past two years.

Alec Peters is now my villain of 2016.
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I fixed that as it's no longer 2015 as of 6 hours or more ago
 
Shaka Zulu said:
JoeRalat said:
Alec cause all of this. He made a big deal over superficial crap and not the main purpose of the fan film. The story. It had to do more with out doing other fan films (To get a series) and spending money without thinking what is best for the project.
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Alec did this for another reason, IMHO-to out do the official Star Trek movies from Paramount and Bad Robot. He hates the Abramsverse, and thinks that he can do a better job.

Sadly, I fear that in the court of public opinion (check out all of the comments about this matter in the comments section of most of the online sections of the pen and ink newspapers) he's already won-people hate the new movie's trailer and want it to fail, and are saying that they will boycott the next movie. These fans of course, are the small percent that think they speak for the whole of fandom in this matter (the same thing that happened with Superman Returns back in 2006, leading to what happened with Man of Steel in 2013-which everybody then hated [due to nostalgia] because it was nothing like Superman Returns!) Never mind what Alec Peters and the Axanar bunch have done to the other fan productions with this bullshit maneuvering over the past two years.

Alec Peters is now my villain of 2015.
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Beyond will do just fine. A few hundred (maybe thousand) are not indicative of the general viewpoint of the reboot Trek movies audience which has been generally positive. Peters got too big for his britches. His fanbase is filled with blind toadies who will believe anything he says. It's a cult of personality now.

I'm getting a little historical here but I do find it interesting how the tables have turned on some of the Axanerds in the course of a year. They had a victory with Orci's departure from Beyond and were claiming that Axanar was what was right for Trek. Now, their dreams are dashed and it looks like their saving grace production will never see the light of day. And Beyond is just a few months away and a new series (which could very well be set in the Abramsverse) is a year off.

Oh, how the tables have turned.
 
I, too, despise JJtrek, but bating and vilifying CBS/Paramount accomplishes nothing. They own Star Trek and call the shots regarding what fans, or anyone, can and cannot do with it.

Best to be civil with TPTB allowong us to play in their sandbox to the extent we can.

You can write stories, make costumes, design ships and hardware and even film them. You can go ahead and really believe you're doing "real" Star Trek. But don't step over the line of trying to assert you're doing something equally official to the property we own or even try to profit from it. Go there and you're toast.
 
BillJ said:
I don't want Star Trek how it used to be. I've got a shelf full of Blu-ray and DVD discs of how Star Trek used to be. I like the Abrams films because they give Trek a 21st century spin.

The 60's are fun to visit, but I don't want to be trapped there.
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Can I keep this quote? I love it, and you, right now.:cool::bolian:

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OpenMaw said:
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Talifans...
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What. The. Fuck?

These people have gone beyond the deep end now right into the crazy zone.
 
OpenMaw said:
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Revisionist History ?

Not sure what your asking with your question... Gene said a lot of things back in the day to fans... However unless he put it down in writing as part of a contract, sorry folks, you got nothing to stand on...

If there is nothing on paper that Gene handed to Paramount, who at the time owned themselves or were still owned by Gulf & Western not sure how far back something like that would of been written in a contract IF there was one in the first place...

Point is if it was only something Gene said, it doesn't mean squat in a court of law, a written contract that says this however is a whole other kettle of fish, doubt there is one...
 
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OpenMaw said:
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What bullshit!

After Roddenberry sold his share in Star Trek to Paramount in the early 70s when he needed the money, the studio had 100% control over it. (This is why Paramount could fire Roddenberry off the films and develop NextGen without him.) Even if Roddenberry made a demand like that to the studio, the studio didn't have to respect it.
 
Just for shits and giggles, for folks with a extra ticket price or a coupon for a freebie, by a ticket for Alec Peters or any of the faithful boycotters on Facebook and gifted them a ticket for Star Trek Beyond. Watch rage ensue.
 
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