Has anybody talked about the Alka Seltzer bread yet? I was more impressed by that than Starkiller base. It was just "plop plop, fizz fizz - bread!"
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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Discussion (HERE THERE BE SPOILERS)
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"Original Alka Seltzer Bread from Jakku! TASTY!"
Let's not.
Poe and Finn made me love the film. BB-8 made love the film. Rey made me love the film. So many original new characters and events made me love this film. Han and Chewie... Leia... Luke.... Icing in the cake man. So awesome to see them back. But it was everything together, the old and the new, that made me love this film.
You got the original actors playing roles and a story that is very close to ANH. Its basically a remake and you loved it. ROTS and AOTC(TO a lesser degree) weren't horrible but they didn't give people what they wanted. Basically TFA gave them what they wanted a new empire, a new planet destroying machine, another new Jedi Hope, A new rebellion(Resistance now) another droid with information the resistance needs, a new darth vader type character, a attack on the planet destroying machine by x-wings.
Look I like the movie but I feel people should be hones with themselves and say why they liked it. It was basically ANH sequel/remake. Even Lucas knows why fans like this one because it basically follows the same story structure as ANH. People got what they wanted and it looks like we will get a new version of TESB in the next installment.
How nice that we have you to tell us what we think and why, pubert.
Has pubert ever acted any different?
How tedious, pubert.
I loved the film because the new cast is fantastic and carried the movie. It was nice to see the old cast back and I'm looking forward to seeing more of Luke but damn, I want to see more of Rey's and Finn's story.
Amusing sidenote: about a year ago I wasn't really excited about a new SW movie. I said that SW, to me, is Luke's story. And that I'd be happy to see Luke again but wouldn't care about new characters.
And now I'm sitting here in love with the new cast. That JJ managed to pull that off is amazing. And Daisy Ridley et al deserve lots of praise for that, too.
I loved the film because the new cast is fantastic and carried the movie. It was nice to see the old cast back and I'm looking forward to seeing more of Luke but damn, I want to see more of Rey's and Finn's story.
Amusing sidenote: about a year ago I wasn't really excited about a new SW movie. I said that SW, to me, is Luke's story. And that I'd be happy to see Luke again but wouldn't care about new characters.
And now I'm sitting here in love with the new cast. That JJ managed to pull that off is amazing. And Daisy Ridley et al deserve lots of praise for that, too.
Which is relevant to this discussion how?
gotta say Chewie's shrug when asked if Han was a war hero is the funniest thing in all 7 movies
I've never said I loved the movie, and I do have issues with the reuse of the Death Star, but it still seems awfully silly to complain about a SW movie that has a new Jedi Chosen One in it or a new Empire. Or a new villain who also wears black. I mean, come on.
And as for the prequels, all I really "wanted" from those were some dynamic and compelling characters and a story I could actually get emotionally invested in-- all of which were unfortunately completely lacking. It doesn't matter how "new" everything else is in a movie if it can't even get those basics right.
I'm talking about fandom in general.
I don't think you can legitimately claim to know what "fandom" thinks a few days after release. And in any case from everything I have read so far most people are loving the new cast.
It's certainly true for this forum.
I have a suspicion regarding where you pulled that "fact" from but that might be too much information.
It's certainly true for this forum.
I have a suspicion regarding where you pulled that "fact" from but that might be too much information.
I liked Poe Dameron(I wish he would have been in it more) and Rey.
BB-8 was ok but he/she is no R2.
I didn't care to much for Finn. It seems like they wasted him on comedy relief. His fight scene with the stormtrooper and Kylo were good. Maybe they will flesh his character out more in the next movie.
I still don't have an attachment to the new characters as I do in the originals. Maybe that will come with time.
Speaking for myself, I didn't knock the prequels for trying something new. I knocked them for sucking, in part because they failed to commit to something new* (and in part because the "new" path they tried to hew was a misbegotten attempt to tell a much more adult story in a series of hackneyed children's films). By comparison with that, an unabashed celebration of the spirit of the original film -- which is absolutely what TFA is -- is far preferable. And I honestly couldn't have cared less whether Han and Chewie and the original cast showed up or not, though it was nice seeing them. If Abrams wants to take it all in some new direction that actually works and doesn't suck and is fun to watch I'll be right there with him.
[* Hence the weary inevitability of Threepio and Artoo turning up in everything and all the godawful, leaden attempts by Lucas to "rhyme" things in the prequels with all the cool mythological motifs that he'd talked himself into believing were the strength of the original movies. All the Joseph Campbell pomposity was the worst thing to happen to Star Wars, IMO, and it's nice to see a Star Wars movie more concerned with being fun than being Momentous.]
[* Hence the weary inevitability of Threepio and Artoo turning up in everything and all the godawful, leaden attempts by Lucas to "rhyme" things in the prequels with all the cool mythological motifs that he'd talked himself into believing were the strength of the original movies. All the Joseph Campbell pomposity was the worst thing to happen to Star Wars, IMO, and it's nice to see a Star Wars movie more concerned with being fun than being Momentous.]
One other think to consider unlike the PT we don't know for sure where we are going with these films. With the PT being made after the OT we already knew what was going to happen just not how those events happened.
Sure the film used several plot elements from ANH, which is in part why I rate it below the OT. But I think it brought back a little of the magic that was missing from the PT.
Sure the film used several plot elements from ANH, which is in part why I rate it below the OT. But I think it brought back a little of the magic that was missing from the PT.
Ah. There's some of that good ol', down-home, vintage PT haterade. 
Seriously, though, while the PT experience didn't "suck" for me, personally, there's little doubt that the films were flawed ... to the point where they did suck, for a lot of people.
As far as Solo is concerned, there are (or, at least were back in the day were) some comments that decried the lack of a wise-cracking, Han Solo-type character. But that's just preference and if the films had significantly fewer flaws, then it'd be an almost irrelevant comment.
Sure, a Han Solo-type character could have added some fun to the proceedings but such a character wasn't essential to the success of the PT (and, honestly, given the results of the PT, how confident are folks that the characterization would have been successfully pulled off?).
Seriously, though, while the PT experience didn't "suck" for me, personally, there's little doubt that the films were flawed ... to the point where they did suck, for a lot of people.
As far as Solo is concerned, there are (or, at least were back in the day were) some comments that decried the lack of a wise-cracking, Han Solo-type character. But that's just preference and if the films had significantly fewer flaws, then it'd be an almost irrelevant comment.
Sure, a Han Solo-type character could have added some fun to the proceedings but such a character wasn't essential to the success of the PT (and, honestly, given the results of the PT, how confident are folks that the characterization would have been successfully pulled off?).
In the PT days, I had always pictured Anakin as being older, though that was partly because we figured he was a contemporary of Obi-wan Kenobi (rather than being almost two decades younger) and because Sabastian Shaw was really old under than helmet. That he was this little kid at first and then a teenager to young twenties seemed off at first because of that. Also it seemed like things had taken place a long time ago, but couldn't have since Luke was about 20 years old.
Also the whole bit about Leia's impressions of her mother made it seem like she was around for at least a little while after the births and on the run. But that didn't happen either.
Basically we had a lot of notions of what it would be like and it didn't happen that way at all. Yet it still happened.
Mind you, the Clone Wars series did manage to flesh out Anakin Skywalker a whole lot more than the films were able to do, and made me like him even though I knew what would happen to him eventually. Anakin was the Han Solo type of sorts.
Also the whole bit about Leia's impressions of her mother made it seem like she was around for at least a little while after the births and on the run. But that didn't happen either.
Basically we had a lot of notions of what it would be like and it didn't happen that way at all. Yet it still happened.
Mind you, the Clone Wars series did manage to flesh out Anakin Skywalker a whole lot more than the films were able to do, and made me like him even though I knew what would happen to him eventually. Anakin was the Han Solo type of sorts.
I like ROTS. I think if Han, Chewie and other OT characters were not in this film it wouldn't have been as popular. People cheered when they saw Han and Chewie. I saw no cheering for Rey, Finn or Dameron. The OT characters made the film imo. Though I did like the new characters I kept thinking when are Han and Chewie going to show up and where was Luke. They are who most people wanted to see.
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