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This guy is really stretching to put together his point at times, & in some cases he's just wrong about things. That they strip mined the source material, so they could toss together something to market, is hardly a "Love song". I mean ST:ID owes its entire concept to TWoK, which is one of the movies this guy is condemning as irreverent & divergent, even though it's villain is from Space Seed. What he's missing is that NuTrek is a caricature of a thing, whereas the TOS film franchise & then the TNG era is an evolution, a continuation. Of course things will end up changing & becoming different. It spanned 35 years!
That said, I'm not hating on NuTrek. It's got it's purpose, & plenty of people like it (Though it too is in a literal different universe) but my gripe isn't with it being "unlike my Star Trek". I can tolerate a wide variance of what Star Trek is, given that DS9 isn't even a star... trek. The gripe is it's got a major lack of substance, & surely they aren't the 1st Trek stories to have that issue, but the whole thing plays like an imitation at best (In part because of the stripmined source material) or an exploitation at worst
It's got hardly any character of its own. That mirror TWoK stuff? It was kind of painful to watch. Cheap & weak, and I couldn't invest in it at all, which is kind of the whole vibe I get from those moves. Not anything to invest in. Whereas those actual TWOK events with Spock & Kirk? captured an entire culture, so much so that the references to it still ring so clearly in the cultural lexicon, that ST:ID could use it over 30 years later with an entire new mass audience "Getting it", & because of that, it just just comes off as trying to capitalize on or exploit what worked about TWoK
Plus, dude totally misses the fact the TOS was actually a story about the main trio, & in NuTrek, my biggest complaint is that Bones is all but relegated to being a bit player, like Chekov & Sulu (A fact I'm sure Karl Urban was surprised by) Scotty has a bigger part, & the main reason for the dynamic shift is the Uhura love story, which he's right in saying isn't completely baseless, but it certainly is a dynamic shift to make it the 2nd most integral plot point of the films. She's the third lead. That's not like TOS, & maaaaybe it wouldn't be such a bad call if there was something to her character beyond that, but there isn't, & that makes her character weak, only there because she's Spock's girlfriend, & knows Klingon. Does THAT sound like a love song to TOS to you?
Another huge departure? KIRK! Kirk in these movies is nothing like the Kirk from TOS, wild, unruly, irreverent (Who eats an apple in the captain's chair?) This is not TOS Kirk, which is fine, but don't claim "Love song"
So no. Dude cherry picked some details & wrapped it up in a rather baseless notion. Plus he's wrong about it not being a departure from TOS. It is. I'm not saying NuTrek is bad. It's as good as Guardians of the Galaxy, or The Avengers or something, but I've got a deeper appreciation for the TOS films, TOS & TNG, than I can get from this incarnation. That's all.
This guy is really stretching to put together his point at times, & in some cases he's just wrong about things. That they strip mined the source material, so they could toss together something to market, is hardly a "Love song". I mean ST:ID owes its entire concept to TWoK, which is one of the movies this guy is condemning as irreverent & divergent, even though it's villain is from Space Seed. What he's missing is that NuTrek is a caricature of a thing, whereas the TOS film franchise & then the TNG era is an evolution, a continuation. Of course things will end up changing & becoming different. It spanned 35 years!
That said, I'm not hating on NuTrek. It's got it's purpose, & plenty of people like it (Though it too is in a literal different universe) but my gripe isn't with it being "unlike my Star Trek". I can tolerate a wide variance of what Star Trek is, given that DS9 isn't even a star... trek. The gripe is it's got a major lack of substance, & surely they aren't the 1st Trek stories to have that issue, but the whole thing plays like an imitation at best (In part because of the stripmined source material) or an exploitation at worst
It's got hardly any character of its own. That mirror TWoK stuff? It was kind of painful to watch. Cheap & weak, and I couldn't invest in it at all, which is kind of the whole vibe I get from those moves. Not anything to invest in. Whereas those actual TWOK events with Spock & Kirk? captured an entire culture, so much so that the references to it still ring so clearly in the cultural lexicon, that ST:ID could use it over 30 years later with an entire new mass audience "Getting it", & because of that, it just just comes off as trying to capitalize on or exploit what worked about TWoK
Plus, dude totally misses the fact the TOS was actually a story about the main trio, & in NuTrek, my biggest complaint is that Bones is all but relegated to being a bit player, like Chekov & Sulu (A fact I'm sure Karl Urban was surprised by) Scotty has a bigger part, & the main reason for the dynamic shift is the Uhura love story, which he's right in saying isn't completely baseless, but it certainly is a dynamic shift to make it the 2nd most integral plot point of the films. She's the third lead. That's not like TOS, & maaaaybe it wouldn't be such a bad call if there was something to her character beyond that, but there isn't, & that makes her character weak, only there because she's Spock's girlfriend, & knows Klingon. Does THAT sound like a love song to TOS to you?
Another huge departure? KIRK! Kirk in these movies is nothing like the Kirk from TOS, wild, unruly, irreverent (Who eats an apple in the captain's chair?) This is not TOS Kirk, which is fine, but don't claim "Love song"
So no. Dude cherry picked some details & wrapped it up in a rather baseless notion. Plus he's wrong about it not being a departure from TOS. It is. I'm not saying NuTrek is bad. It's as good as Guardians of the Galaxy, or The Avengers or something, but I've got a deeper appreciation for the TOS films, TOS & TNG, than I can get from this incarnation. That's all.
