Beyond Teaser Trailer Analysis

[Mountie1988]

I don't think Enterprise is taken down in the opening sequence.

opening sequence

 

[OpenMaw]

I don't think Enterprise is taken down in the opening sequence.

opening sequence

Pretty much everything indicates that she goes down pretty early in the film. Like within the first fifteen minutes I wager. Like i'd wager before we get a proper title card.

"Captains log we're two years into our five year mission, blah blah blah, checking out some strange disturbances in this region.."

*ship goes boom*

- Star Trek Beyond -

 

[BillJ]

opening sequence

Pretty much everything indicates that she goes down pretty early in the film. Like within the first fifteen minutes I wager. Like i'd wager before we get a proper title card.

"Captains log we're two years into our five year mission, blah blah blah, checking out some strange disturbances in this region.."

*ship goes boom*

- Star Trek Beyond -

That picture breaks my heart every time I see it.

 

[OpenMaw]

To quote Picard "We barely knew her."

I really don't see them just slapping a fresh coat of CGI paint on the same model after this though. I think they'll either leave it blank slate or have some new ship at the end.

 

[ozzfloyd]

This NCC-1701 was crap anyway (imo of course). Looking forward to a new ship!

 

[ancient]

This NCC-1701 was crap anyway (imo of course). Looking forward to a new ship!

Agreed, this ship was very awkward looking, it reeked of compromise to me. A clean redesign would be better. The Kelvin & the Vengeance were both vastly more pleasing designs imo, probably because they were actually designed rather than cobbled together from old art elements.

It's also a good excuse to get rid of those interiors. A bridge where there isn't a spotlight pointing in your face from every angle & an engineering that doesn't look like a factory basement.

 

[shapeshifter]

...there will be no refit.

I wasn't the biggest fan of this design, (first Enterprise I ever said that about) so I am happy to see her days are numbered. I just hope the new Enterprise is a more pleasing design, (to me.)

Maybe the engineers got over their Narada induced paranoia, has something sleeker on the drawing boards for the next class...

 

[BillJ]

I'm kinda hoping there isn't a new Enterprise. Ideally, a fourth film would bring the crew back together after an extended separation.

 

[eyeresist]

I like the Nu Ent and hope they keep it. But after this they will have to give it a facelift, if only because audiences inevitably get bored.

 

[Pindar]

Well, I hope she is salvageable she grew on me.

This is only halfway through the 5 year mission so I would hope they don't lose her.

 

[Starship]

I think the new alien has a familiar face, but hadn´t recognized who until now... Figured it today.

General Mandible as a guest Star, will act as a new alien!!!

 

[EyalM]

Save the Enterprise!

Part of what turned me off of GEN, was the loss of the E-D. The movie was a downer as is (Kirk, Picard's family), so ending it on the E-D being a total loss was too depressing.

 

[Mountie1988]

TrekCore delivers once again with this Simon Pegg interview.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/12/si...te-spills-on-new-star-trek-beyond-story-info/

Dubai seems to be a new Fed outpost at the frontier which the Enterprise visits at the start of the movie. probably named after.

"Part of the story at least begins with [the Enterprise] docking up at a new Starbase which is at the very edge of space. It’s a new kind of diplomatic hub. It’s called Yorktown, and it’s right on the edge of Federation space. It’s where all the most recent Federation inductees can come and mingle with each other and sort of learn about each other.

[It's] basically a place where they can understand what being part of the Federation means, and it’s an important kind of tactical establishment for the Federation. They’re very, very far out, but it’s been built locally, so it’s very interesting to look at. It’s where the Enterprise docks up. For the first time in ten months [the Starbase has] proper contact with other people — that’s where the story begins."

I've found this picture from the production

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Posted by Mountie1988:

TrekCore delivers once again with this Simon Pegg interview.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/12/sim...nd-story-info/

Dubai seems to be a new Fed outpost at the frontier which the Enterprise visits at the start of the movie. probably named after.

"Part of the story at least begins with [the Enterprise] docking up at a new Starbase which is at the very edge of space. It’s a new kind of diplomatic hub. It’s called Yorktown, and it’s right on the edge of Federation space. It’s where all the most recent Federation inductees can come and mingle with each other and sort of learn about each other.

[It's] basically a place where they can understand what being part of the Federation means, and it’s an important kind of tactical establishment for the Federation. They’re very, very far out, but it’s been built locally, so it’s very interesting to look at. It’s where the Enterprise docks up. For the first time in ten months [the Starbase has] proper contact with other people — that’s where the story begins."

Given the description of its purpose as a diplomatic hub and its desert setting in Dubai, Starbase Yorktown almost brings to mind what Nimbus III and Paradise City might have been had it been a successful diplomatic colony rather than an abject failure not taken seriously by any of the governments stationed there. With the recent conflicts and near-conflicts with both Romulans (albeit not of this universe) and Klingons it might have given the colony an extra bit of importance in the eyes of the governments using it.

 

[TheFlutteringHorde]

Posted by Mountie1988:

TrekCore delivers once again with this Simon Pegg interview.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/12/sim...nd-story-info/

Dubai seems to be a new Fed outpost at the frontier which the Enterprise visits at the start of the movie. probably named after.

"Part of the story at least begins with [the Enterprise] docking up at a new Starbase which is at the very edge of space. It’s a new kind of diplomatic hub. It’s called Yorktown, and it’s right on the edge of Federation space. It’s where all the most recent Federation inductees can come and mingle with each other and sort of learn about each other.

[It's] basically a place where they can understand what being part of the Federation means, and it’s an important kind of tactical establishment for the Federation. They’re very, very far out, but it’s been built locally, so it’s very interesting to look at. It’s where the Enterprise docks up. For the first time in ten months [the Starbase has] proper contact with other people — that’s where the story begins."

Given the description of its purpose as a diplomatic hub and its desert setting in Dubai, Starbase Yorktown almost brings to mind what Nimbus III and Paradise City might have been had it been a successful diplomatic colony rather than an abject failure not taken seriously by any of the governments stationed there. With the recent conflicts and near-conflicts with both Romulans (albeit not of this universe) and Klingons it might have given the colony an extra bit of importance in the eyes of the governments using it.

It'll certainly be interesting to see how the Federation goes about staying in contact with all the species and powers it finds on the frontier. It actually reminds me more of Deep Space 9 in effect, if not in intention. With the wormhole right next door it ended becoming a first contact point for species from the Gamma Quadrant while also getting wrapped up in the local politics of the area. Likewise form what we've heard of Yorktown it seems like a big hub for new powers that may have seen a ship like the Enterprise visit once during the Five Year mission to go and learn more, and get involved.

I have to say everything seen and heard about planet Dubai/Starbase Yorktown makes it the most interesting part of the film. The uniforms, the general look of the sets from the behind the scenes stuff, interviews like this. Just all of it.

 

[OpenMaw]

It's precise description actually makes me think of Babylon 5. A deep range outpost setup for various races of an alliance to meet and learn. Sounds like B5 to me.

I'm glad we'll be getting at least a little more lead in time before the ship goes down, and get to see some other stuff other than *just* the planet.

 

[Mountie1988]

It's precise description actually makes me think of Babylon 5. A deep range outpost setup for various races of an alliance to meet and learn. Sounds like B5 to me.

I'm glad we'll be getting at least a little more lead in time before the ship goes down, and get to see some other stuff other than *just* the planet.

well, at this point 3 years ago at least we had all seen the opening sequence. Leaves us clueless what it will be this time. probably more related to the rest of the story than the nibiru arc.

Or Enterprise goes down in the opening and we see her and Yorktown station in flashbacks, que sera

 

[eyeresist]

TrekCore delivers once again with this Simon Pegg interview.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/12/si...te-spills-on-new-star-trek-beyond-story-info/

...

"Part of the story at least begins with [the Enterprise] docking up at a new Starbase which is at the very edge of space. It’s a new kind of diplomatic hub. It’s called Yorktown, and it’s right on the edge of Federation space. It’s where all the most recent Federation inductees can come and mingle with each other and sort of learn about each other.

[It's] basically a place where they can understand what being part of the Federation means, and it’s an important kind of tactical establishment for the Federation. They’re very, very far out, but it’s been built locally, so it’s very interesting to look at. It’s where the Enterprise docks up. For the first time in ten months [the Starbase has] proper contact with other people — that’s where the story begins."

This all sounds VERY Star Trek to me.


BTW, this is the original interview:
http://nerdist.com/star-trek-beyond-simon-pegg-interview-set-visit/

And Pegg says a large number of other fascinating things. E.g.

Also we got all the cast in on it. We sent an email out to the cast when everyone got here, saying, “Look at your character. If you have any feelings or impulses, you known them better than we do. Let us know.” That’s been really helpful.
...
We actually went out to the Memory Alpha guys, the two founders of the Memory Alpha Wiki and asked them to name something for us. ... Three hours later I got a full etymological breakdown of the word and the history of the thing.
...
It’s always good to get names from the original series, like dead redshirts. I have a list of dead redshirts on my phone somewhere. Just to know that the same people exist in the universe.
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You look at the great episodes and think, “Why don’t we do ‘Mirror, Mirror’ or why don’t we do ‘Arena’?” But that was Galaxy Quest, so that’s off the table. [Laughs.]
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What you have to maintain with Star Trek is that it’s rooted somewhere in our universe. In humanity. Star Wars is a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. The thing that makes that Star Wars more science fantasy is there’s a lot of special effects, a lot of fighting. Star Trek never could afford that, in a way. Which is why it had to concentrate on other aspects of production.
We can do both now now. So I think it’s kind of finding a way of having that really fun, spectacular event cinema, but grounding it. Because explosions don’t mean a damn thing if you don’t care about who’s involved in the explosions. You can see that most incredible fireworks on a cinema screen. But if you don’t fundamentally care about the people that are in jeopardy then they’re so unimpressive. You see that time and time again these days.
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Yeah, I felt like the Kirk-Spock thing, we’d done that now. Arguably maybe too soon in a way. I think there’s still a lot of time for those guys to become super friends. Maybe we’ll do that further down the line if we do more. I felt like now it was time to move away from the bromance thing and concentrate on the idea of the crew as a family living in a small space together, and what it means to all of them.
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I got misquoted recently, saying that I was brought on to make it less Star Trekky, which is not what I’d told that journalist. What I meant was there has to be a degree of universality when you’re dealing with something like that. Which means you can’t alienate the people for whom it’s their very first Star Trek. ... Making it at once something that the fans can enjoy and take a lot from, but also new people can come in and see it as a one-off and go, “Hey, I’ve got fifty years of this I can go and watch now!”
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But there seems to be this weird thing these days about if you gritty something up suddenly it’s okay for us to like it as grownups. Like justifying what is essentially aimed at children, but if you suddenly fill it with darkness and blood, it’s okay for grownups. You don’t have to feel guilty about liking it. But fuck that.
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Thank you for not asking me about Star Wars! [Laughs.]

 

[BillJ]

TrekCore delivers once again with this Simon Pegg interview.
http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/12/si...te-spills-on-new-star-trek-beyond-story-info/

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"Part of the story at least begins with [the Enterprise] docking up at a new Starbase which is at the very edge of space. It’s a new kind of diplomatic hub. It’s called Yorktown, and it’s right on the edge of Federation space. It’s where all the most recent Federation inductees can come and mingle with each other and sort of learn about each other.

[It's] basically a place where they can understand what being part of the Federation means, and it’s an important kind of tactical establishment for the Federation. They’re very, very far out, but it’s been built locally, so it’s very interesting to look at. It’s where the Enterprise docks up. For the first time in ten months [the Starbase has] proper contact with other people — that’s where the story begins."

From what I've seen and read (so far), it seems like the setup is straight out of "Arena".

 

[Franklin]

After being away for a week and avoiding tech, I just had a chance to watch the teaser (a half dozen or so times in a row) and read through some threads. As far as I'm concerned, it does all a teaser should do. It is confusing and not really telling me anything. But at the same time, it intrigues me and holds my attention. Most importantly, it leaves me WANTING MORE!