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Any idea about the population of Mars in the books. If they can be an independent planet and be in a cold war with Earth, they must number in the millions at least.

The numbers I remember from the books are:

Earth - 31 Billion
Mars - 4 Billion
Belt and Outer Planets - ~100 Million
Ceres - 7 Million
Thanks. With billions of people, Mars can certainly challenge Earth for the solar system.
 
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Is Syfy now holding the show until the New Year?

Space in Canada is doing their annual "12 days of Spacemas" where they marathon movies and shit over the Xmas/New Years period and it starts Monday.

Was also looking at the wiki entry yesterday and it seems they started writing the second season back in May so unless it turns into a real ratings turd we could be on track for a S2.
 
The second episode was just as good as the first. I was a little surprised they skipped over the big riot from the book, but I guess they might just be saving that later. Miller's visit to Julie's apartment was the only part of this one that I recognized from the book, I actually just read that scene yesterday, but even it played out a little differently.
The stuff on the Knight gave us some nice character moments, and Miller's story was a nice bit of world building.
So did Havelock pay the hooker with the cactus?
I think it's a good sign that the only things someone like Christopher can find to complain about is a complaint about diversity, which doesn't really hold up, and one about magnetic boots that really has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual show.
 

Is Syfy now holding the show until the New Year?

Space in Canada is doing their annual "12 days of Spacemas" where they marathon movies and shit over the Xmas/New Years period and it starts Monday.

Was also looking at the wiki entry yesterday and it seems they started writing the second season back in May so unless it turns into a real ratings turd we could be on track for a S2.

I'm not real clear on what you're asking. There is a new episode every Tuesday through February 9th.

The Expanse - Episode Schedule


Personally, I think a 4 hour holiday marathon on Syfy of the released episodes is a great idea.
 

Is Syfy now holding the show until the New Year?

Space in Canada is doing their annual "12 days of Spacemas" where they marathon movies and shit over the Xmas/New Years period and it starts Monday.

Was also looking at the wiki entry yesterday and it seems they started writing the second season back in May so unless it turns into a real ratings turd we could be on track for a S2.

I'm not real clear on what you're asking. There is a new episode every Tuesday through February 9th.

The Expanse - Episode Schedule


Personally, I think a 4 hour holiday marathon on Syfy of the released episodes is a great idea.

Should have paid closer attention to the wiki entry yesterday :)

But was asking if the U.S was also getting a couple of weeks break between Eps 2 and 3 or whether Canada was getting left behind.

But now I know :)
 
I didn't put together that the lack of water on Ceres was because of the Cant's destruction until I saw posts about the episode on some the SFF sites I frequent.
 
I didn't put together that the lack of water on Ceres was because of the Cant's destruction until I saw posts about the episode on some the SFF sites I frequent.

Well there was a graphic shown in episode one that mentioned that Ceres was under water rationing.
 
I think the water level was low anyway - but then the destruction of the Cant really screwed them over and they had to extend rationing.
 
Hmm... I wish I were more excited about this. Seeing a genuine hard-SF space show on TV is remarkable. I like the realistic approach to space and ships and physics, and there are some nifty touches like the bird on Ceres flapping its wings so infrequently -- although there are other annoying concessions to being filmed on Earth, like the silly trope of people using magnetic boots to walk around (which is enormously less efficient than just floating). And for once we get an explosion in space that doesn't look like a fiery liquid-fuel explosion in an atmosphere -- although they still cheated by making the nuclear blast endure far longer than it really would in vacuum. Without an atmosphere to heat to incandescence, the flash would be over in a split second.

The setting reminds me a lot of my own Only Superhuman -- the focus on an Asteroid Belt culture centered around Ceres, with Earth and Luna combined under the UN or equivalent and Mars as a separate sovereign nation. (Although I resisted the standard SF trope of treating "the Belters" -- or Striders, in my case -- as a single monolithic culture, instead making them a variety of competing subcultures.) So I wanted to like this.

But I'm afraid I don't find it very engaging. Too much of it is stuff we've seen many times before -- a society on the brink of war, ruthless corporations and wage slaves, corrupt cops, your typical dystopian stuff. Virtually no sympathetic characters; the only decent thing anyone did was Holden undeleting the distress call, and that was something he did reluctantly. So far, they haven't given me much reason to care about any of these characters. And the casting department did not do well on the diversity front.

We've seen some of it before but there's very little in scifi we haven't seen at this point, so does it do it well? I think the answer is a resounding yes. I don't think the magnetic boots are used continuously, they are seen used as a backup and also in emergency/combat situations.
 
Is Syfy now holding the show until the New Year?

Space in Canada is doing their annual "12 days of Spacemas" where they marathon movies and shit over the Xmas/New Years period and it starts Monday.

Was also looking at the wiki entry yesterday and it seems they started writing the second season back in May so unless it turns into a real ratings turd we could be on track for a S2.

I'm not real clear on what you're asking. There is a new episode every Tuesday through February 9th.

The Expanse - Episode Schedule


Personally, I think a 4 hour holiday marathon on Syfy of the released episodes is a great idea.

Should have paid closer attention to the wiki entry yesterday :)

But was asking if the U.S was also getting a couple of weeks break between Eps 2 and 3 or whether Canada was getting left behind.

But now I know :)

The first four episodes are now available online in Canada as well.

Space - The Expanse
 
How awesome does the Rocinante look when we get to it at the end of Episode 4? Interesting to see they've brought Lopez onboard - if memory serves, he didn't make it off the Donny in the books (plus, pretty obvious the Donny's command deck is a redress of the Roci's Bridge, but it's all MCRN design).
 
Well, I missed episode 2 Tuesday night due to a power outage, and for reasons I wasn't able to get to it online until today, and then I find out episodes 3 and 4 are available as well. Nice consolation prize, IMO.

So anyhoo, I'm all caught up to episode 4 now. I got to say the show certainly does absorb you once it gets going. Although faithful, the show does seem to be gradually carving its own direction, or maybe I'm just misremembering details form the books. For example, in the books, the crew always seems so loyal to Holden, even in the beginning. Yet here, no one really respects him and its Naomi who has to whip everyone into action. Also, I don't remember Amos being so intensely loyal to Naomi and so hostile to Holden. Alex certainly didn't have his commission restored when they got to Donnager in the books.

I take it the show doesn't have any military experts? Not that there's anything seriously amiss about how military is presented in the show, but the rank insignia on the uniforms does bother. Or in the case of the UN Admiral, lack thereof. But what really gets me is the use of chevrons for the officers in the Martian Navy. It makes them look like enlisted personnel. Hell, at a glance one would think Donnager's captain was a sergeant and Lopez a corporal.
 
Alex didn't get his commission restored. They just treated him better as an honorably discharged veteran.
 
I didn't put together that the lack of water on Ceres was because of the Cant's destruction until I saw posts about the episode on some the SFF sites I frequent.

Well there was a graphic shown in episode one that mentioned that Ceres was under water rationing.

I think the water level was low anyway - but then the destruction of the Cant really screwed them over and they had to extend rationing.
From what I read, it sounds like the water was low due to the Cant not arriving, so they rationed it, but the residents of Ceres blamed Earth or Mars.
 
Earth (or even Mars, with its domes) people can never understand what it means to be a Belter where you don't have free access to air and water automatically. Miller mentions it many times in the book.
 
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