The First Trailer

[HIjol]

Atrocious. No other word for it. RIP Star Trek.

Please, please tell us why.

Why? So half of you can line up to tell me what a scumbag I am for not liking what I'm seeing?

I don't want Guardians of the Galaxy meets Fast & Furious. It's that simple. That's what this trailer sells to me....with maybe a bit if Mission Impossible thrown in the mix.

If the marketing is rubbish and the movie ultimately has the thought provoking qualities of past Trek (and isn't as vapid as Into Darkness) then fine, I'll ultimately be pleased. I'm cool with that. But I think the chances of that are pretty slim based both on who is writing it (albeit admittedly an upgrade on Orci) and the fact that the studio ordered that it is "less Star Treky" then the previous two, which were themselves only superficially "Star Treky" with their fan winks, and more like GOTG. The trailer is entirely consistent with that direction, as is Lin's involvement.

That's my take on the trailer. I don't like what I see. I hope the finished product is better than the trailer. That's my opinion, I don't need to be told why I am wrong or convinced to change my mind, nor am I interested in a long discussion about why I should. End of.

Your prerogative, entirely, Salmon, and more power to you. I am sure you are not alone in your pre-guesses and impressions, based on the Trailer. There should be room for all opinions, and I smiled at your "Mission Impossible" comment. One of the first things I noticed when I saw the Trailer was Scotty/Pegg falling and hanging on the cliff like Ethan/Tom did in the mountain free-climbing scene in
MI: II.

I saw a lot to like in the Trailer, so we shall see!

PS You are not a Scumbag, but I do hope your impressions are mistaken, if you know what I mean!

 

[ConRefit79]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeLqsvFO31o

Love that scene. Not sure what it has to do with Star Trek Beyond?

Star Trek III - Kirk destroys Enterprise to save crew, Spock and Saavik.

Star Trek XIII - Enterprise apparently destroyed early on.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeLqsvFO31o

Love that scene. Not sure what it has to do with Star Trek Beyond?

Star Trek III - Kirk destroys Enterprise to save crew, Spock and Saavik.

Star Trek XIII - Enterprise apparently destroyed early on.

Huh? I echo the question: what does this have to do with ST Beyond?

 

[BillJ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeLqsvFO31o

Love that scene. Not sure what it has to do with Star Trek Beyond?

Star Trek III - Kirk destroys Enterprise to save crew, Spock and Saavik.

Star Trek XIII - Enterprise apparently destroyed early on.

Circumstances seem to be entirely different.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Yes, Meyer is absolutely more talented. He knows how to make Trek with heart, soul and brains.

Bullshit.

50% of his Star Trek films had none of those things. The other only had two of the three.

 

[CaptainDonovin]

I rather enjoyed the trailer & am looking forward to this. The music isn't out of place as some either here or on another board was saying, young Kirk played it, maybe he still likes the song. Plus JJ likes the band so there's that.

I see nothing that is telling me this will be a bad movie, save for the Big E getting badly broken. Again. To me it looks like some alien planet that's being visited turns out to be involved in some kind of war with another (very Trek like) or it could be a planet that already lost & the Enterprise gets attacked by some weapon (whatever those asteroid looking things are). Sure the TOS Enterprise wasn't lost pre-refit but this is an alternate reality so anything is fair game.

Can't wait to see the next trailer.

 

[BillJ]

Sure the TOS Enterprise wasn't lost pre-refit but this is an alternate reality so anything is fair game.

Which is what makes it great. They can do anything they want without violating what came before.

 

[JWPlatt]

Sure the TOS Enterprise wasn't lost pre-refit but this is an alternate reality so anything is fair game.

Which is what makes it great. They can do anything they want without violating what came before.

I think I'd like to see some Trek stuff where canon is treated the same way Tarantino treats history (Inglourious Basterds) just to razz people who hold canon above all else. Skip the alternate universe excuse. Just play fast and loose with what we believe Prime history to be - not even in the context of a reboot. Just like if it were the Alien franchise, completely ignore 3 and 4. I guess that's called retcon, but this would be completely dynamic retcon.

 

[TRON JA307020]

What is the deal with the motorcycle? Have they outlawed the wheel in the future? I had the same "what the fuck?" reaction to people criticizing the Argo in Nemesis.

At the time, people criticized the dune buggy chase in Nemesis. I guess if you have young and beautiful people playing Trek dress-up, then it's ok.

You realize, of course, that it's all Star Trek dress-up, right? You are aware that there is no real starship Enterprise or starship crew?

Wha whaaa...aat?

 

[Amaris]

At the time, people criticized the dune buggy chase in Nemesis. I guess if you have young and beautiful people playing Trek dress-up, then it's ok.

You realize, of course, that it's all Star Trek dress-up, right? You are aware that there is no real starship Enterprise or starship crew?

Wha whaaa...aat?

I'm sorry, so very sorry. *pats Pubert on the back*
We'll go get ice cream.

 

[Devon]

On the other hand the trailer for Star Trek Beyond is way over the top and hints that the series is going in a "Guardians of the Galaxy" direction as the suits at the studio demanded.

Can someone help a non-Marvel movie watcher understand what the "Guardians of the Galaxy" comparison is supposed to be?

I'm starting to think some people remembered the supposed report that Paramount wanted Trek to be more like that film and then are just using it for comparison's sakes.

 

[ConRefit79]

Love that scene. Not sure what it has to do with Star Trek Beyond?

Star Trek III - Kirk destroys Enterprise to save crew, Spock and Saavik.

Star Trek XIII - Enterprise apparently destroyed early on.

Circumstances seem to be entirely different.

That's not the point. I hope the trailer is misleading on which ship is destroyed. He said they have no ship. Could have been destroyed. Perhaps not.

It seems there are two camps. One hell bent on defending any new Star Trek that gets produced and the other on trashing it. I'm trying to be open and not blindly follow either way. But IMO, it would be bad for Star Trek II an d Nu Trek II to have Khan and a Character death to both be followed by films which feature the loss of the Enterprise. I don't know about anyone else, but it seems like there aren't many original ideas coming out of Hollywood anymore.

 

[Paradise City]

There's nothing but wisecracks, FX and 'a' ship crashed in a quarry that is obvious in the trailer. .

Wrong.

There's a premise here that's more interesting than most of the Trek movies.

And BTW, Lin is a more talented director than any previous Trek Helmer other than Wise, whose tastes were those of a very different era.

A premise there that can only be encrypted by your keen palette I'm sure.

Lin is the Fast and Furious guy. If this film follows in that vein then I'll approach this film with extreme caution.

 

[JWPlatt]

He should direct the next Trek filmed called "Warp." It's about a young starfleet officer who must prevent the warp core from exploding aboard a starship by keeping its speed above warp five.

 

[Nerys Myk]

There's nothing but wisecracks, FX and 'a' ship crashed in a quarry that is obvious in the trailer. .

Wrong.

There's a premise here that's more interesting than most of the Trek movies.

And BTW, Lin is a more talented director than any previous Trek Helmer other than Wise, whose tastes were those of a very different era.

A premise there that can only be encrypted by your keen palette I'm sure.

Lin is the Fast and Furious guy. If this film follows in that vein then I'll approach this film with extreme caution.

How many have you seen?

 

[Squiggy]

Justin Lin Box Office: $1,961,769,603

Star Trek Box Office (All Movies): $1,919,548,708

It doesn't count unless it's a YouTube comment.

 

[Timby]

There's nothing but wisecracks, FX and 'a' ship crashed in a quarry that is obvious in the trailer. .

Wrong.

There's a premise here that's more interesting than most of the Trek movies.

And BTW, Lin is a more talented director than any previous Trek Helmer other than Wise, whose tastes were those of a very different era.

A premise there that can only be encrypted by your keen palette I'm sure.

Lin is the Fast and Furious guy. If this film follows in that vein then I'll approach this film with extreme caution.

For the record, Lin only entered the Fast & Furious series with the third movie. And Fast Five and Furious 6 both moved away from the "hurr it's about racing cars" testosterone-fueled material of the first two movies and were instead legitimately great, thrilling heist movies, filled with a ton of character and heart. After Orci spooked Cornish away from the project, Lin was a name that came to my head and when he was announced as the director, I couldn't have been happier.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

Star Trek III - Kirk destroys Enterprise to save crew, Spock and Saavik.

Star Trek XIII - Enterprise apparently destroyed early on.

Circumstances seem to be entirely different.

That's not the point. I hope the trailer is misleading on which ship is destroyed. He said they have no ship. Could have been destroyed. Perhaps not.

It's quite clear in the trailer that the ship "going down" is has the serial number NCC-1701. That pretty much ends your speculation. Sorry.

 

[Cyke101]

"This is where the frontier pushes back."

OH, what a GREAT spin on the final frontier! So much to love here.

Though it seems like there's an attack on Earth *again* (the ones running away seem to have Starfleet uniforms, with London's Swiss Re Tower in the background).

Our heroes having the save the hundreds of Enterprise crewmembers is something we haven't seen in a long, long time. Seeing them being marched off like that was pretty high stakes, since it's personal.

Also, it's funny seeing people here complain about the motorbike when we have no idea whose it is, how it got there. Humans on opposite ends of vast oceans independently invented their own bow & arrow, stringed instruments, and natural medicines. A motorbike would seem like child's play compared to starships.

Pine's hair is more in line with Shatner's now, complete with bangs.

Needs more Sulu.

Lastly, I love the new transporter effect, which is inspired much more by TOS, especially with the "particles" flowing within the body. But there's also a mix of Enterprise there, with the particles being drawn towards the center, too.

 

[TRON JA307020]

Star Trek III - Kirk destroys Enterprise to save crew, Spock and Saavik.

Star Trek XIII - Enterprise apparently destroyed early on.

Circumstances seem to be entirely different.

That's not the point. I hope the trailer is misleading on which ship is destroyed. He said they have no ship. Could have been destroyed. Perhaps not.

It seems there are two camps. One hell bent on defending any new Star Trek that gets produced and the other on trashing it. I'm trying to be open and not blindly follow either way. But IMO, it would be bad for Star Trek II an d Nu Trek II to have Khan and a Character death to both be followed by films which feature the loss of the Enterprise. I don't know about anyone else, but it seems like there aren't many original ideas coming out of Hollywood anymore.

It may not be the enterprise that is destroyed. If it is maybe the alien species will have some super technology to rebuild it or help Kirk go back in time to save the Enterprise.


Seriously though I hope they aren't going to destroy the ship. Its never really been in a equally matched battle like we saw in the wrath of khan. We've never really seen what she can do.