The First Trailer
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The Enterprise has always been 'useless and defenseless' whenever the script calls for it.
What exactly is "Star Trek" about the Martian?
Heh. Imagine that. A blockbuster movie with even half-assed science content and actual drama instead of mindless 'splosions and supposedly hyper-intelligent logical aliens that are also constantly screaming. Nah. The kiddies would never go for it.
You're right. So I changed it to 1998. Because in 1996 it defeated the Borg. But since Insurrection...
I was really just trying to be silly and get a few laughs out of people. My goodness!
Let's get back to discussing the trailer. I apologize if my humor was disruptive or misinterpreted. It's a sensitive day on the inter webs today!!
Um, everything? Are you seriously asking this?
Exploration of an alien planet, lots and lots of sciencey stuff, the whole world coming together to bring Matt Damon home, lack of explosions, and optimism.
It sure seems like every other alien we see isn't of the same race either. The two we see her beating up are different to each other as well as to Elba's big hench alien guy who beats up Kirk later on in the trailer.
I think it's a safe bet that this planet is a starship graveyard, home to dozens of felled ships by the swarm.
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This looks fantastic! It feels like TOS got a real, big budget feature film, which is great, because it did! 
Could you slap a Star Trek coat of paint on The Martian? Probably, but I don't think it would translate very well.
I grew up on The Original Series. Where Kirk fought Gods, Pizza Burgers and a guy dressed in a lizard suit. Star Trek, for me, was about big, brash fun on the Final Frontier.
Pulp sci-fi is in its DNA. Where the good guy punches the bad guy, saves the day and gets the girl. Kirk and Spock are every bit as much comic books superheroes as Superman, Batman or Captain America. It is a shame some fans can't or won't wrap their minds around that.
I'm sure it will be high-octane fun for the whole family and I'll give it a watch when it comes out but these new movies just haven't grabbed me much at all. They're fun but pretty forgettable. I wasn't much interested in the films with the old cast to be honest.
Bring on the serialised, ongoing TV storytelling please.
Bring on the serialised, ongoing TV storytelling please.
In 1996, it didn't defeat the Borg. It sat dead in orbit around Earth while the Borg worked to assimilate it. If Data has truly turned, it would've been lights out for the Federation.
Awful, awful trailer. Reserving judgement on the film until I see it though (yes, I know, ban me from the internet). I laughed at Spock beaming away from McCoy though – I've always liked Urban's Bones.
I've also noticed that not only do these movies constantly turn the Enterprise into the USS Punching Bag but their idea of bold action is to members of the crew literally jump off a cliff. I mean, they're constantly jumping off a cliff for random reasons in these movies.
I guess the detestable Simon Pegg made sure he had a large part in this movie since he was writing the script.
I guess the detestable Simon Pegg made sure he had a large part in this movie since he was writing the script.
I intensely dislike this trailer it's too generic action movie. So far to me it looks more like Star Trek: Things Go Boom. I've been nervous about this movie since I read a quote by Simon Pegg: They had a script for Star Trek that wasn’t really working for them. I think the studio was worried that it might have been a little too Star Trek-y. [The studio said] make a Western or a thriller or a heist movie, then populate that with Star Trek characters so it’s more inclusive to an audience that might be a little bit reticent.'
This seems very lackluster given that this movie is the movie meant to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Trek.
This seems very lackluster given that this movie is the movie meant to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Trek.
I have my head wrapped around that very well. You've made that very clear over the years. However, your interpretation isn't objective truth.
That interpretation isn't Star Trek to me or I'd imagine most of the people who are disappointed in the reboot films. "The Martian" is exactly what I want from a Star Trek film.
I agree with you. That was definitely the reason I fell in love with Star Trek. It was also helpful that it WAS a scifi/fantasy/superhero story that had an adult sensibility to it as well. I think the new movies do that well, but we "overlook" that sometimes because the revisionist history has made Trek something more important and intellectual than it ever really was.
You have to remember that there are fans whose entire value systems, as they associate with Star Trek, stem from the idea that we "the fans of Star Trek" are somehow above the mundane low-brow entertainment that the little people enjoy. There is a huge section of the fanbase who TRULY buys into this...and it's very difficult for them to see it any other way because that belief is part of their esteem and identity.
"MY science fiction is about thoughtful contemplation, scientific discovery, and the betterment of mankind, and therefore I am a smart, intellectual, thoughtful person more than the droves of idiots who enjoy other forms of entertainment."
And every time one of these new films comes out and does well, it's a threat to that belief system. It's even more evil when other fellow fans believe that the new films are entertaining.
And so then everyone goes berserk and world wide web wars ensue. It's always a hoot, but it's the same every single time Star Trek does something different. It actually gets kind of boring.
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