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So...women in the new Trek series.

If there's going to be people in bunny suits, the suit should come with bunny ears
 
Stargate pulled it off well, the female duty uniforms were identical to the mens, and until Claudia Black joined the cast, did virtually nothing to emphasize any femininity (compared to 7 of 9, for example).
There's no reason why the new trek show should make a big deal of it.

True, and SG1 had a really strong female lead. 4 male leads too. Sigh.

But lets not forget Hathor, which as well as showing there were 5 women and a hundred men on the base, said that Hathor's magic potion would seduce straight and gay men alike, but not straight and gay women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTcNsyqnOzE
I prefer to pretend that episode doesn't exist :p.
I believe it was written by the same person who scripted the abysmal "Tasha Yar on Planet Africa" episode in S1.
 
I think all women should wear nun robes while men should wear nothing but their underwear.

We are for equality after all.
 
Women make up 50% of the main cast and all in standard uniform.

The only time a catsuit should be considered is for a hunky male character, after all it's about time for equality.

I was making a parody of this BTW.

You know what equality means, right?
 
^ Yes I do. I've had to endure women in catsuits and gratuitous underwear scenes, it's about time men were treated as nothing more than eye candy.

(Please realise this is tongue in cheek)
 
^ Yes I do. I've had to endure women in catsuits and gratuitous underwear scenes, it's about time men were treated as nothing more than eye candy.

(Please realise this is tongue in cheek)

Well, when the majority of your audience are males, there's going to be more women wearing revealing clothes than men.

Besides, you gals got episodes like this!

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Hell, I can't even complain. They're fine looking fellas.

And that's not even mentioning the other 50 episodes where Kirk gets his shirt torn just where he can show off his pecs :lol:
 
I think it would be very nice if one of the new main cast is a Muslim woman who wears a hijab (hair-covering scarf).

Uhura, Sulu, and Chekov were on that bridge for a very good reason, and we should all remember that.
 
I think this topic is very important. I believe there is nothing wrong with making women look attractive, but the caveats that some of you have mentioned should hold, e.g, the other characters should treat women the same and the eye-candy should not be over the top.
I would like to remind people of how TNG tried to skirt the issue during its first season. The idea of unisex uniforms being in two varieties: overall and skirt uniform. If the next Star Trek show wanted to do something brave and get noticed it may need to revisit some of those idea.
A girl I know is a big fan of the 2009 reboot, but she did mention Zoe Saldana's uniform as being a little sexist. She was surprised when I told her about the uniforms William Ware Theiss created for TNG. She quickly find some pictures of men wearing the skirt uniform on the internet.
Some have commented just how much they hated the sight of men wearing those skirt uniforms in TNG. I don't get that opinion. To me those men were a necessary part of the shows setting. I felt it was entirely plausible that those men would wear clothing that was more revealing. It embodied choice, even if would not be my own personally.
I think the next Star Trek TV should keep that in mind. I wonder if the rumors are true that the show won't be set in J.J. Abrams reboot universe because they can then dodge the issue of women wearing 60s style mini-skirt and by extension the experiment TNG conducted. I hope that Alex Kurtzman will in this matter and many others regarding the shows settings make some bold choices.
 
^ The thing that bothers me most about the NuTrek films is that men don't have the sleeveless option, it seems to imply that women will never attain a sufficiently important enough rank to warrant displaying it--that's the impression I'm always left with anyway.

When you look at all of the TNG-ENT uniforms, they have never been unflattering, in that they are tailored to fit well, so they show male and female characters off as being fit without being gratuitous, which is what's needed for the next series.

As for the unisex skant, I would love to see it return, it does make a statement--one that would mean a little more if the main male cast wore them at times.
 
I think all women should wear nun robes while men should wear nothing but their underwear.

We are for equality after all.

Well, if it's equality you want, how about everybody just walks around the ship like they're going to a Betazoid wedding?

THAT should solve the catsuit/miniskirt "problem" right there.:devil:
 
hopefully the current trend of the internet being offended by anything to do with women characters in nerd shit will have passed and they'll be distracted by president trump so the writers can do whatever the heck they want

probably not
 
hopefully the current trend of the internet being offended by anything to do with women characters in nerd shit will have passed and they'll be distracted by president trump so the writers can do whatever the heck they want

probably not

And some of those writers will be women. I also hope they can do whatever the heck they want. ;)
 
In the latter category, I recall THREE - Seven, T'Pol, and arguably Troi.

I think that the show makers, as in so many other contexts, need to look at the shifting times since the TNG era shows were made. The millenials, the Tumblr generation, are far more aware of social issues like shows with exactly one female cast member or which dress their men in uniforms and their women in spandex. This new show has to appeal to the audience of Orange is the New Black, and that is a different challenge than just making sexy female aliens.

I'd like to see gender parity in the cast, a continuation of Trek's strong female roles, and costuming decisions that don't make you cringe.

Okay. Now I really want to see Uzo Aduba as the new captain.

I would like to remind people of how TNG tried to skirt the issue during its first season. The idea of unisex uniforms being in two varieties: overall and skirt uniform. If the next Star Trek show wanted to do something brave and get noticed it may need to revisit some of those idea.

And maybe actually make them unisex. I think it was Marina who said in an interview that, once they changed the uniforms, it was only the men who got the (more comfortable) two-piece uniforms, while the women continued to wear spandex.
 
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