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Episode of the Week : The Ultimate Computer

Rate "The Ultimate Computer"

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Love this episode for all the reasons above, plus great use of the Doomsday Machine score. This episode also contains one of my favorite bit of Shatner acting. When the M5 is approaching the Excalibur for the kill shot, the music from Catspaw comes up and Kirk, full of desperation and frustration, cried out "Daystrommmm!" It's perfect and hugely powerful. Love it.

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So that just leaves Landru and Norman. I really think that Kirk's "talks a computer to death" is another one of those exaggerations of the character as it assumed legendary status that don't hold up to scrutiny of the facts. Add to that, Landru and M-5 were more like a computerized version of a mind than a true computer, it really doesn't hold up very well to me.

Ruk, Korby, Landru, Nomad, Norman, M5, and Rayna were all undone simply by interacting with Kirk. Thus his reputation for talking computers to death. The man is malware.
 
Hugely important episode in so many ways in real life, not just in the Trek universe. How many young black children in the 1960s had their first view of a distinguished respected black scientist from this episode. In many interviews adults in their 60s today reflect back on this episode as pivotal for the respect Kirk showed to Daystrom.

Do think though that the impact of the portrayal as singular as it was, was mitigated at all by revelation of his paranoia, and as McCoy typified it, perhaps insanity. A portrayal of an extremely positive image, but one when all the layers have been peeled away, ultimately a mad one.

On the other hand, one could look at the source of his bitterness, rage, and eventual loss of perspective and control as the result of his previous work being belittled and mocked, at least as he perceived it, which while certainly not put in racial terms contemporaneously, might very well have been a life experience that was meant to convey a resonance that black viewers would likely well identify with and, in fact, see as a rationale for Daystrom's evolving sense of being under attack by, if not the greater society, than more tellingly, by his peers.

What do you think?

Marshall by the way, was quite a distinguished actor, always displaying an imposing gravitas. He also was an opera singer, I believe.

Several stupid things make it only a 7 for me. Third, Wesley. He's written as an idiot, i.e. thinking Kirk is responsible for what the M5 is doing, given he knows a) Kirk personally, that b) M5 is an experimental system, and c) they forced most of Kirk's crew off the ship, leaving him short-handed. The first conclusion he ought to have come to when hit with full phasers is that M5 was malfunctioning, then, when no one shut it off, assumed that M5 had incapacitated or killed the crew.

But at least he had the brains, intuition, or whatever to recognize that the vulnerability that Enterprise appeared to be presenting itself as being in, was somehow inconsistent with how the ship had pursued and attacked its prey, to the extent that he thought it borderline plausible that what he was seeing was not simply a ploy. Does he deserve any props for that rather than being logical and attempting to end the series?

The computer voice is one of those times when most viewers have no idea it's Jimmy. The additional starships and exciting space battle are great, but kind of a missed opportunity in the CBS remastered version.

I've not seen it. Does it actually show damage to the destroyed ships, not their just being tilted like marionettes with their strings having been severed?


The relevance of the episode's issue--machines replacing man--was prescient; this was emerging as a serious concern in the mid-20th century, and recent history supports the theory that as time passes and technology advances, this will become an ever more immediate and disconcerting subject.
In reading this, I'm struck by an interesting echo of Cogley's defense of Kirk and actual life view. I think I always found his character unrealistic in holding such opinions centuries after the influence of computers on all aspects of experience became omnipresent. It's interesting that you point out the reasonableness perhaps, that such an attitude at this point in the future, might not be such an outlier.
 
When Kirk and the M-5 are selecting personnel for the exploration on board, are those people they select supposed to be part of the current crew complement of twenty or are they just imagining that they are on board for the purposes of the exercise? I would think that astrologists and geologists would not be among the bare minimum crew, and I doubt that the Enterprise would carry TWO geology specialists on a skeleton crew.

Kirk says that Rawlins is the head geologist on board the Enterprise. Something must have happened to him between this episode and "That Which Survives" because the head geologist in that episode is D'Amato.

Scotty gives deck five as one of the levels were power was shut down. Daystrom explains that the levels that were shut down were full of crew quarters that were currently unoccupied. Yet other episodes give deck five as the location of Kirk's quarters.

Spock comments early in this episode "The most unfortunate lack in current computer programming is that there is nothing available to immediately replace the starship surgeon." Looks like they solved that problem by the time of Star Trek: Voyager.

One gets the impression that Wesley really doesn't like being a starship captain, which is why he is so enthused about the possibilities of the M-5. This impression is later strengthened by the fact that when we next see him, he has a deskbound planetary administrative job as a planetary governor.
 
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Still, I loved seeing 4 other starships. Of course, that leads me to ask.... when do we get the next version of the "why is a Starfleet Command commodore commanding the Lexington and not the ship's captain? thread"

Easy. He was in command of both Lexington as well as holding overall command of the squadron consisting of Lexington and the other three vessels. That's exactly the thing a Commodore would be doing. Perhaps in Starfleet you don't have a separate Flag Captain in charge of the ship until you're a Rear Admiral or something.
 
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Still, I loved seeing 4 other starships. Of course, that leads me to ask.... when do we get the next version of the "why is a Starfleet Command commodore commanding the Lexington and not the ship's captain? thread"

Easy. He was in command of both Lexington as well as holding overall command of the squadron consisting of Lexington and the other three vessels. That's exactly the thing a Commodore would be doing. Perhaps in Starfleet you don't have a separate Flag Captain in charge of the ship until you're a Rear Admiral or something.

Perhaps the admiral didn't want to part with his share of the prize money due a commodore with a flag captain.
 
When Kirk and the M-5 are selecting personnel for the exploration on board, are those people they select supposed to be part of the current crew complement of twenty or are they just imagining that they are on board for the purposes of the exercise?

I'm sure it's just make-believe. There never was any beam-down anyway, or an attempt at one.

Yet other episodes give deck five as the location of Kirk's quarters.

Only "Journey to Babel", where there were 114 passengers aboard. In "Elaan of Troyius", even one diplomat forced the re-quartering of top officers...

In terms of repeating dialogue, Kirk lived on Deck 12. In terms of door signs, Deck 3 (which is also the deck in McCoy's door signage - and that's where Captain Spock is in ST2, too).

Spock comments early in this episode "The most unfortunate lack in current computer programming is that there is nothing available to immediately replace the starship surgeon." Looks like they solved that problem by the time of Star Trek: Voyager.

It's odd that Spock doesn't directly leap to the logical conclusion and say "The most fortunate thing about this is that a crewless ship can operate without a surgeon"...

... the "why is a Starfleet Command commodore commanding the Lexington and not the ship's captain? thread"

The standard argument is that he isn't. He says he's commanding the "attack force", not the Lexington. When he then hails Kirk, it is with "Commodore Wesley aboard the USS Lexington", not a word about commanding that ship. He next hails on behalf of two starships...

...And the first time we hear Wesley actually give orders to the Lexington specifically is after M5 has fired hard phasers at her, possibly knocking the CO out of the action. :devil:

Timo Saloniemi
 
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