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Are you apprehensive about the new series?

In The Cage, in Where No Man has Gone Before, in The Corbomite Maneuver, and in The Man Trap, there was absolutely no explanation given about things like transporters or warp drive. Ditto for Encounter at Farpoint, Emissary, Caretaker, and Broken Bow, and for all the theatrical films. In The Making of Star Trek, the rationale was given, and it was to the general effect of "Does Sgt. Friday go into a protracted description of his revolver when he pulls it out?"

Many of the theatrical films, as well as the opening episodes of the last 4 television series, did go into some detail on how the characters were brought together (or reunited), but what was at the time (and arguably still is) the theatrical film that was the most accessible to non-fan audiences (The Voyage Home) did practically none of that, and simply assumed that the audience would either already know the backstory of Kirk, Spock, et al. being on Vulcan, in a stolen Klingon scout ship, with Spock still in the process of recovering his marbles, or would go along for the ride, and let the story pull them in.
 
I thought he was saying that as the series goes on they're going to start bringing in exact elements from earlier versions of the Supergirl. Like bringing back Faye Dunaway specifically as the same character from the Supergirl movie, or bringing in the specific version of Darkseid featured in Superman/Batman: Apocalypse.

Hadn't heard that. Interesting. I watch The Flash and was impressed with Mark Hamill on there. I thought he did a great job. Only later did I find out he'd played the same character on the 1990 series. That was cool, and the sort of thing a fan would notice but a casual viewer like me missed completely. That's cool
This isn't happening. I was just saying that I thought that was you were saying.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I've been a Trekker for the last thirty years, just like my father before me, but if I have to pay for a subscription to a streaming service, and this is the only show I'm going to watch on it, then I'm not going to shell out for it. Not even this Trek awesomeness will be good for my bottom line. My budget can't justify it.

I'm curious, because to me paying $6 to watch ST is not a big deal. Do you have cable now? Netflix? How much do you spend on tv now, obviously if you don't mind me asking

But the announcement said that (at least as of the announcement) it will only be available [at least first-run] through online streaming and possibly cable/satellite on-demand services. The former requires a broadband internet connection (which not all of us have, or even want; I'm actually willing to pay a small premium to stay on dial-up [and to have a spare landline, both for voice and for dial-up, in case the main landline goes down]), and the latter, at least for satellite, is potentially difficult if one's STB is not tied into a broadband internet connection (given that I have DirecTV, and walked away from TWC, with extreme prejudice, following their pissing contest with CBS, and have no broadband internet connection TO tie into the STB, that's not going to happen, either).

I just checked: no broadband internet connection at the STB, no DirecTV on-demand content. Period. And if I had a broadband internet connection, there would be no reason (well, no reason other than the fact that my computers are far too old, and far too slow, to give decent performance on video playback) to care whether DirecTV carried the new show as on-demand content. (And if we had some gin, we could make gin-and-tonic. If we had some tonic.)
 
Don't get me wrong, I've been a Trekker for the last thirty years, just like my father before me, but if I have to pay for a subscription to a streaming service, and this is the only show I'm going to watch on it, then I'm not going to shell out for it. Not even this Trek awesomeness will be good for my bottom line. My budget can't justify it.

I'm curious, because to me paying $6 to watch ST is not a big deal. Do you have cable now? Netflix? How much do you spend on tv now, obviously if you don't mind me asking

But the announcement said that (at least as of the announcement) it will only be available [at least first-run] through online streaming and possibly cable/satellite on-demand services. The former requires a broadband internet connection (which not all of us have, or even want; I'm actually willing to pay a small premium to stay on dial-up [and to have a spare landline, both for voice and for dial-up, in case the main landline goes down]), and the latter, at least for satellite, is potentially difficult if one's STB is not tied into a broadband internet connection (given that I have DirecTV, and walked away from TWC, with extreme prejudice, following their pissing contest with CBS, and have no broadband internet connection TO tie into the STB, that's not going to happen, either).

I just checked: no broadband internet connection at the STB, no DirecTV on-demand content. Period. And if I had a broadband internet connection, there would be no reason (well, no reason other than the fact that my computers are far too old, and far too slow, to give decent performance on video playback) to care whether DirecTV carried the new show as on-demand content. (And if we had some gin, we could make gin-and-tonic. If we had some tonic.)

The needs of the many and all that. Just because you and a few others may be luddites doesn't mean that VOD shouldn't be exploited. The old paradigm of how TV programmes are delivered is shifting to what we have now and what programmes such as the new Trek series and what ever the Clarkson/May/Hammond car programme will be.
 
For the non believers, no explanation of the universe is possible. For the believers, no explanation is necessary. Please make the series the original timeline and universe and the books alternate realities/timelines and universes.
 
For the non believers, no explanation of the universe is possible. For the believers, no explanation is necessary.

Well that's only true if you think no one ever changes their mind on how they feel about a piece of media.
 
The needs of the many and all that. Just because you and a few others may be luddites doesn't mean that VOD shouldn't be exploited. The old paradigm of how TV programmes are delivered is shifting to what we have now and what programmes such as the new Trek series and what ever the Clarkson/May/Hammond car programme will be.

Agreed. We wouldn't have the eBook novellas if we waited for everyone to catch up with technology. TV is changing, and Tim Cook himself has said: "The future of TV is apps."
 
Plus we've got to drop television by 2040 anyway according to Data, might as well move to streaming instead. :p
 
The needs of the many and all that. Just because you and a few others may be luddites doesn't mean that VOD shouldn't be exploited. The old paradigm of how TV programmes are delivered is shifting to what we have now and what programmes such as the new Trek series and what ever the Clarkson/May/Hammond car programme will be.

Agreed. We wouldn't have the eBook novellas if we waited for everyone to catch up with technology. TV is changing, and Tim Cook himself has said: "The future of TV is apps."

Definitely it is. Although most people still watch regular tv, the shows that are the most buzz worthy are generally cable and streaming. That's Orange is the New Black, House of Cards and definitely Game of Thrones. A lot of people subscribe to cable just for GoT.

Not all streaming has been a hit. I wouldn't say Community's transition was really successful. And Star Trek might not be enough of a draw even if it's wonderful to make this CBS thing fly. They know the risk.

But the day will come when if you don't have broadband it will be like not having a phone now. Many things will expect you to have it and will be unavailable to those that don't. I've found that since we cancelled cable we spend less on tv than we used to and have a better experience with it. I can chip in $6 for Star Trek, especially since you can get a free 1 month trial. It's all good
 
The needs of the many and all that. Just because you and a few others may be luddites doesn't mean that VOD shouldn't be exploited. The old paradigm of how TV programmes are delivered is shifting to what we have now and what programmes such as the new Trek series and what ever the Clarkson/May/Hammond car programme will be.

Agreed. We wouldn't have the eBook novellas if we waited for everyone to catch up with technology. TV is changing, and Tim Cook himself has said: "The future of TV is apps."

Although I don't currently subscribe to any streaming services, I don't have a problem with the concept of streaming in general terms. I'm just not sure how it's going to be a viable replacement for television here in the Land of Ridiculously Low Data Caps.
 
Don't get me wrong, I've been a Trekker for the last thirty years, just like my father before me, but if I have to pay for a subscription to a streaming service, and this is the only show I'm going to watch on it, then I'm not going to shell out for it. Not even this Trek awesomeness will be good for my bottom line. My budget can't justify it.

I'm curious, because to me paying $6 to watch ST is not a big deal. Do you have cable now? Netflix? How much do you spend on tv now, obviously if you don't mind me asking

But the announcement said that (at least as of the announcement) it will only be available [at least first-run] through online streaming and possibly cable/satellite on-demand services. The former requires a broadband internet connection (which not all of us have, or even want; I'm actually willing to pay a small premium to stay on dial-up [and to have a spare landline, both for voice and for dial-up, in case the main landline goes down]), and the latter, at least for satellite, is potentially difficult if one's STB is not tied into a broadband internet connection (given that I have DirecTV, and walked away from TWC, with extreme prejudice, following their pissing contest with CBS, and have no broadband internet connection TO tie into the STB, that's not going to happen, either).

I just checked: no broadband internet connection at the STB, no DirecTV on-demand content. Period. And if I had a broadband internet connection, there would be no reason (well, no reason other than the fact that my computers are far too old, and far too slow, to give decent performance on video playback) to care whether DirecTV carried the new show as on-demand content. (And if we had some gin, we could make gin-and-tonic. If we had some tonic.)
Sorry to revive such an old thread, but I couldn't not respond to this post.

Do you have a smart phone, or tablet? Even if you don't have a fast internet connection, you can use a 3G/4G device and the CBS app to watch stuff through their streaming service.

I couldn't imagine not having a high-speed internet connection in this day and age. I could see not having a super fast speed, I only have mid-range cable base service, but I don't think I could stand only having dial up.
 
I'm curious, because to me paying $6 to watch ST is not a big deal. Do you have cable now? Netflix? How much do you spend on tv now, obviously if you don't mind me asking

But the announcement said that (at least as of the announcement) it will only be available [at least first-run] through online streaming and possibly cable/satellite on-demand services. The former requires a broadband internet connection (which not all of us have, or even want; I'm actually willing to pay a small premium to stay on dial-up [and to have a spare landline, both for voice and for dial-up, in case the main landline goes down]), and the latter, at least for satellite, is potentially difficult if one's STB is not tied into a broadband internet connection (given that I have DirecTV, and walked away from TWC, with extreme prejudice, following their pissing contest with CBS, and have no broadband internet connection TO tie into the STB, that's not going to happen, either).

I just checked: no broadband internet connection at the STB, no DirecTV on-demand content. Period. And if I had a broadband internet connection, there would be no reason (well, no reason other than the fact that my computers are far too old, and far too slow, to give decent performance on video playback) to care whether DirecTV carried the new show as on-demand content. (And if we had some gin, we could make gin-and-tonic. If we had some tonic.)
Sorry to revive such an old thread, but I couldn't not respond to this post.

Is less than two weeks "such a long time" then?

Do you have a smart phone, or tablet? Even if you don't have a fast internet connection, you can use a 3G/4G device and the CBS app to watch stuff through their streaming service.

I couldn't imagine not having a high-speed internet connection in this day and age. I could see not having a super fast speed, I only have mid-range cable base service, but I don't think I could stand only having dial up.

This I fully agree, it's 2015, not 1995, just because some people want to live in the past, doesn't mean we all should, nor should we allow innovations not to occur.
 
When TNG was being prepared, Paramount TV did a deal with CIC-Taft, its then-international video distribution arm, for how the new series could best be successful in Australasia. The local TV networks were angry when TNG was pre-sold to home video, enforcing a 12-month "video holdback" before the show could be aired on free-to-air TV. Aussies were angry, but we coped, and the concept of renting two eps. of a new TV show each month from a local video store opened many eyes to a new idea. At the same time, the pre-sale of TNG on home video gave extra cash to Paramount to build the permanent sets and get production rolling.

Similarly, in the UK, the winning pre-sale bid went to Sky(?), a satellite TV channel, again quite a new concept at the time - didn't many UK fans take to visiting clubs and pubs with access to Sky, such as they would to view sporting events? Again, the pre-sale of TNG on UK satellite TV gave cash to Paramount to build the sets and get production rolling.

To my frustration, the first few Simon & Schuster "Star Trek: Starfleet Corps of Engineers" eBook novellas (originally promoted as "exclusive to eBook") were not available to Mac users, or people with work PCs shielded by a firewall. (Double frustration for me!) But it was a brave attempt to explore a new delivery system and get people talking about new Trek.

Then there was "Voyager" and the fledgling UPN experiment, which revived the original pre-TMP 70s plan for a "Phase II" TV series.

I'm all for exploring new technologies and delivery systems. That "Trek" is important/niche enough that it can be used in that way is always reassuring.
 
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I'm perplexed at all the "Whelp, can't afford the $6 a month, guess I have no option but to imply I'm torrenting/don't have broadband or any streaming device, guess I'll miss out" posts, but not a single "Hey, I'm going to have to watch this at my friend's house" post. :vulcan:

Guys. Find a meetup. Or come on over and we'll watch it. Bring some Chex mix or something. :rommie:

TC
 
Similarly, in the UK, the winning pre-sale bid went to Sky(?), a satellite TV channel, again quite a new concept at the time - didn't many UK fans take to visiting clubs and pubs with access to Sky, such as they would to view sporting events?

Ah, memories. We'd all get together every month at someone's house, watch tapes of the latest episodes (often mailed across the pond by our American friends) and make a party of it. Now it seems the viewing and community experience has moved online...

...You kids get off my lawn!! :klingon:
 
More memories: ENTERPRISE debuted the night before I moved out of NYC. This presented a problem, since the TV set was packed up for the movers, the cable service had been discontinued, etc. How was I going to be able to catch the exciting series premiere?

At a group showing set up by a local Trek fan club, of course. :)

(Thank you, U.S.S Northstar.)
 
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