"Waitress Clara" is in fact Oswin from Asylum of the Daleks. She's in the episode's final scene and is in fact motivated by the Doctor's story of Clara to go out into space, which we know will end with her becoming a Dalek.
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Yeah, so I read a few weeks ago. But is that confirmed or just a rumor at this point?
So...Oswin is the hybrid.
So, if the twelfth Doctor didn't inspire Oswin to go into space, then the eleventh Doctor would never have met the Impossible Girl, then Clara would have been able to plead with the Time Lords to give the Doctor additional regenerations, then the twelfth Doctor would never have been able to inspire Oswin to go into space.
Where does this loop begin?
Moffat's Who will collapse under the weight of its own ontological nonsense.
Oh, I hadn't come across that bit of info.
Why would Oslek frighten the Doctor (as per the teased confession)? She got blown up with the rest of the Asylum.
Parts of it are confirmed. Radio Times confirms that the Doctor tells someone in a diner about Clara. DWM confirms the finale will feature a Clara splinter working as a waitress in a diner. I'm not sure if the fact she's Oswin is confirmed, but that is a Moffat trope and this season Moffat's writing is just a collection of tropes and reused storylines.
If she isn't then that would be one of the few surprising things Moffat has written in years!
Isn't the time lock already broken? I vaguely remember last year after Listen aired Moffat saying that the Time Long was gone but The Doctor just didn't realize.
I was under the impression that the episode starts with waitress Clara?
She's definitely in the final scene. If she's in the opening scene, than all that means is the episode has a framing sequence around the main story.
I think the hybrid thing is mostly a red herring.
So, if the twelfth Doctor didn't inspire Oswin to go into space, then the eleventh Doctor would never have met the Impossible Girl, then Clara would have been able to plead with the Time Lords to give the Doctor additional regenerations, then the twelfth Doctor would never have been able to inspire Oswin to go into space.
Where does this loop begin?
Moffat's Who will collapse under the weight of its own ontological nonsense.
11 would have found his impossible girl anyway. In the Snowman he didn't even realise it was her until right at the end, and in The Bells of St John it was Clara who contacted the Doctor, because Missy gave her the Tardis phone number. The only difference would have been that the Doctor would have wondered why Clara looked like Victorian Clara, rather than why she looked like a woman he'd met in Victorian London and sounded like a woman he'd met in the Dalek Asylum.
I think what we can take away from all this is that the Doctor apparently still gets buried on Trenzalore.
Gallifrey has got to be third or lower on the list of planets that are close to his hearts. I can see him reverting to his itinerant lifestyle before too long, even if he does finally get back to the planet of his birth.
Gallifrey has got to be third or lower on the list of planets that are close to his hearts. I can see him reverting to his itinerant lifestyle before too long, even if he does finally get back to the planet of his birth.
Why would he want to stay? Just because he wants to find it doesn't mean that he'd want to stay. In the Classic series, even when he wasn't on the run anymore (in fact, he was President for some of the time), he could've stayed on Gallifrey but never did. He was always quick to leave showing no inclination whatsoever to stick around.
So, I disagree with the entire concept of your question. No justification for not staying is required.
Mr Awe
Since Moffat actually hates the Time Lords and Gallifrey and has already apologised for restoring Gallifrey, it should be obvious to all that Gallifrey and the Time Lords are not returning permanently to the show. Therefore the episode is going to establish some reason for that.
It's the same question from my perspective.
If they make the Xmas special 70 minutes, that'd make up the episode's worth of material we're otherwise short this season.