Agents of SHIELD: Season 3 - Discussion (SPOILERS LIKELY)
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So the fact that she has never mentioned past boyfriends on the show means that she hasn't had any?
That's a rather weird conclusion to come to.
I don't get all the controversy over Jemma and Will. It's a natural, very primal human instinct to want to "reaffirm life" when one is looking death in the face.
Let's keep in mind that at this point she had realized/decided/become resigned to the fact that she was going to spend the rest of her life with Will.
"Tap dat shit!"
Yup.
Speaking of Fitz, the brother ought to try just a tad harder. When he and Simmons were watching the sunrise, and she reiterates her deep potential feelings for him and immediately after asks what they should do, he can't even ask to hold her hand for a few moments? Come on, hombre! The journey of a thousand miles begins with a few steps! 
^^ Nah, he did the right thing. He knows what that sunrise means to her.
That sums it up right there.
Unable to cope is one thing - Andrew developed a compulsion to kill, almost immediately. And, for the record, he did have access to all the help in the world, certainly right up until he started killing people, and, well, it's hollywood, so even afterward as well. And as a character he certainly should have had the sense to make use of that help, especially if he was confused and going through weird changes. But apparently this 'urge' stopped him...
Maybe I'm wrong, but it certainly seems like Andrew's abilities are of an entirely different type from what we've seen before. They don't seem to follow the normal rules, and they're not just 'potentially dangerous', but rather it seems like they're actively hostile and literally controlling him. Part of me wonders if Lash isn't some kind of Kree failsafe to wipe out any remnants of inhumans that escaped them...
Yeah. It would be, "Fitz got some! Yeah, baby!"
Difference being, Fitz is the one who has made his feelings for Simmons public, but he's basically been friendzoned for the past year. It would be logical for folks to cheer for him to move on.
That said, while folks here might encourage Fitz in such a situation, I find it very easy to believe that he would resist and wait for Simmons.
Let's just get this out of the way: the "friendzone" is a myth concocted by resentful adolescents and man-babies to justify to themselves why their female friend are going out with such-and-such a jerk instead of them. People are your friend, or they are not. They are attracted to you, or they are not. Nobody is "owed" affection or attention from anyone else.
What I find most amusing about all this is that Fitz (a person still recovering from brain damage I might add) is taking this situation a whole lot better and with more emotional maturity than some of the fanbase are.
What I find most amusing about all this is that Fitz (a person still recovering from brain damage I might add) is taking this situation a whole lot better and with more emotional maturity than some of the fanbase are.
Physician heal thyself.
Andrew has a career of helping people sort of problems, even exotic ones. When he was suddenly giving a problem that needed sorting out he was initially overwhelmed and concerned. Instead of seeking help for himself he eventually rationalized it as a proper thing to do. Lash was primal and reactive, he felt he was serving a cause by killing the inhumans, judging them as dangerous most of the time. Andrew knew what Lash was doing and became OK with it to the point of trying to convince May how right he was.
Speaking of Fitz, the brother ought to try just a tad harder. When he and Simmons were watching the sunrise, and she reiterates her deep potential feelings for him and immediately after asks what they should do, he can't even ask to hold her hand for a few moments? Come on, hombre! The journey of a thousand miles begins with a few steps!
Oh, he just locked her in solid by being a gentleman about it!
Speaking of Fitz, the brother ought to try just a tad harder. When he and Simmons were watching the sunrise, and she reiterates her deep potential feelings for him and immediately after asks what they should do, he can't even ask to hold her hand for a few moments? Come on, hombre! The journey of a thousand miles begins with a few steps!
Oh, he just locked her in solid by being a gentleman about it!
That's also nice but sometimes it's paying off better to just be straightforward and risk something. At worst she'll turn away and you know it's not meant to be.
Fitz is his own worst enemy now concerning Gemma, it's noble and right that he should help recover that guy on the planet who helped Gemma stay alive (little did he know that they developed feelings for one another) but sometimes you gotta go with Kirk Lazarus from Tropic Thunder: "Nah! It's simple as pie man: you plant your feet on the ground, you look her square in the eyes you say "Hey! baby, you and me's goin' on a date, that's the end of the story."
I like how Shield has found its groove.. having one storyline while developing the next one. It's a far cry from season 1.
I was pretty shocked that Andrew was fully aware of what he was doing as Lash.
I didn't expect them to deal with all of that so quickly, I was expecting that to take up a lot more of the season. Poor May. I liked Andrew too, so I'm a little disappointed we're losing the character.
So I wonder who this group that set up the mission through the portal is? I'm not sure if I want it to be be Hydra or not. It being Hydra is kind of small universeish to me, but at the same time I don't know if I really want another group sneaking around behind the scenes. We already have plenty of those in this world.
I was pretty surprised by the big twist with Malick and Price. I really hope she doesn't know Malick is Hydra, I like her and Coulson together and I'd hate to lose that.
I didn't expect them to deal with all of that so quickly, I was expecting that to take up a lot more of the season. Poor May. I liked Andrew too, so I'm a little disappointed we're losing the character.
So I wonder who this group that set up the mission through the portal is? I'm not sure if I want it to be be Hydra or not. It being Hydra is kind of small universeish to me, but at the same time I don't know if I really want another group sneaking around behind the scenes. We already have plenty of those in this world.
I was pretty surprised by the big twist with Malick and Price. I really hope she doesn't know Malick is Hydra, I like her and Coulson together and I'd hate to lose that.
I doubt it's Hydra. Hydra only dates back to WWII, and the machinery Fitz used to get Simmons back was centuries old. We saw in a flashback that some secret society was sending volunteers through the portal centuries ago. I'd assume the descendants of that society were behind Will's mission. After all, they used a variant of the same emblem.
Hydra was founded by the Red Skull to explore exotic science during the 2nd world war, unless it wasn't.
Yes, and this brings up something else that has puzzled me; why would Jemma completely give up on the idea of Fitz finding HER, after only 6 months? I think she knows that she would not give up on Fitz so easily so why would she think he would, especially knowing the way he feels about her romantically?
This is one of the reasons I said earlier that if Jemma had held out for a year or more, it would not have surprised me. That would have been in keeping with who she has been shown to be as a character. But as I also wrote earlier, if the planet had driven her a bit loopy after 6 months and this was one of the reasons she hopped into bed with Will, I can accept that as well.
The fact that she has never mentioned past boyfriends on the show, and she has not, doesn't mean necessarily that she has not had any, it only leaves open the possibility that she has never had any. What I meant above was that her stating that she has had boyfriends has not occurred on the show.
So the fact that she has never mentioned past boyfriends on the show means that she hasn't had any?
Given Jemma's looks, smarts, etc, I would be surprised too, if she ever states that she has never had a boyfriend. But I go by what I actually see on screen or what is strongly implied. From what we have been shown of Jemma and the way she is around men, her behavior on the planet with Will appears to be out of the norm.
Maybe at some point, we'll be given additional information about Jemma that will make me see her in a different light. If that happens, so be it, but until it does, I'll continue to base my opinion of her actions on the planet with Will on what we have been shown on screen.
