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Pre TOS starships....

I hate to say this, but that nose still looks like it belongs on a clown balloon in a Macy's Day parade. Sorry.
 
A bit more detail and some lighting. Still a bit more detail to go as well as finishing the colouring.








I have to say lighting and shadow help this design. It's never going to be a beauty, but I think it can look purposeful. And it's supposed to look more rudimentary and less advanced than the later 23rd century designs. I think there is also something of a 1950's retro sensibility to it, primarily due to the spherical main hull.

If I were to start from scratch again I might make the spherical main hull a bit less spherical than I already have and I could push the three nacelles outward a bit further.
 
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Here is where we stand, folks. While it will never be pretty (it can at least look purposeful) it can give us a fair idea what the hero ship could look like. Starting with a Matt Jefferies' concept sketch I've tried to retain a TOS like aesthetic to it (not much in extraneous lights for one thing) and there's also something of a 1950's vibe to it to look reasonably pre TOS.





 
I really like it. I wonder how the internal volume compares with a Connie... I bet there's a lot of room inside that spheroid hull...

--Alex
 
I really like it. I wonder how the internal volume compares with a Connie... I bet there's a lot of room inside that spheroid hull...

--Alex
Tough to say. The ship is about 500 ft. L.O.A. and the main hull is 16 decks. But the ship is distinctly smaller than a Connie.


Another look.

 
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Very nice! I like the small details that give it scale, and the fact that you didn't overuse them.
 
The lower number (and size) of viewports make it seem bigger than it is, I think

Great work!
 
I'm presently starting to sketch out ideas for two evolutionary variants.

The first is the next design stage that will be somewhat similar in concept to the Deadalus design. Thus my concept basically loses the third lower nacelle and a secondary support hull is added.

The second design idea I'm considering is a ringship design that precedes my Constellation design.
 
I like that better, I think. More in keeping with the rest of the ship design somehow
 
I kept the greater diameter of the housing the same. I essentially shortened the housing and enlargened the deflector to fit the opening. And then I cleaned up the bits on each side of the housing.
 
I had momentarily forgotten about some of the work I had done before regarding pre TOS ship designs.

Which brings me to this:




And this:




To my eye the lower image (an idea for the Valiant) is evidently an evolution of the one above (the ringship E glimpsed in TMP).

The ringship E looks like a relatively small ship (in terms of habitable areas for the crew). It really does look more like an exprimental testbed for a new technology given how relatively little of the ship is given over to those manning the vessel. This is counter to what we see later where the habitiable areas of the vessel are far greater than the engineering/propulsion components. To that end the ringship E could well have been launched not that long after Cochranes's successful development of the space warp. Ringships that followed would have built on what worked on the ringship prototype.

So my conjectural ringship design really wouldn't be far removed from what could follow the ringship prototype. The warp rings would have been improved and the habitable parts of the ship expanded to allow the ships to have ever extended range.

With that said I imagine there could have been a variety of ringship designs and with few of them (if any) being built in large numbers. Most of them could well have built to fulfill specific purposes. There could have been some common platforms that were modified for specific needs. Perhaps colony ships, transports and survey craft could have done this. (This leads me to wonder what a colony ship might be like. Is it a one-way transport only or might it make successive runs to brng more colonists and supplies?)


Now when I look at my conjectural design anew I don't see me making drastic changes to it as a predecessor to what came before my Constellation design with nacelles instead of rings.
 
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