I mean, since Moffat now seems determined to answer it himself...
So why do YOU think the Doctor left Gallifrey in the first place...?
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Re: So why do YOU think the Doctor left Gallifrey in the first place..
Feeling like a misfit. There was no point to his existence and it was easy enough to find a planet with a Time Lord-oid dominant species, so he found an era with an acceptable level of technology and hid out.
Feeling like a misfit. There was no point to his existence and it was easy enough to find a planet with a Time Lord-oid dominant species, so he found an era with an acceptable level of technology and hid out.
Re: So why do YOU think the Doctor left Gallifrey in the first place..
"It's Galli-fray not Galli-free, ya bum!"
"It's Galli-fray not Galli-free, ya bum!"
Re: So why do YOU think the Doctor left Gallifrey in the first place..
I'm really worried that Moffat will ruin yet another season with a "mystery" that doesn't need solving.
At least, not one that involed a Hybrid.
I'm really worried that Moffat will ruin yet another season with a "mystery" that doesn't need solving.
At least, not one that involed a Hybrid.
Re: So why do YOU think the Doctor left Gallifrey in the first place..
He also seems to have forgotten/couldn't care less that the Doctor had never even heard of a Dalek the first time he met them.
He also seems to have forgotten/couldn't care less that the Doctor had never even heard of a Dalek the first time he met them.
Re: So why do YOU think the Doctor left Gallifrey in the first place..
Yeah, he really does. He even had the Eleventh tell someone that he used, as a kid, to be told of nightmareish tales of the Daleks.
Which doesn't make sense, surely.
Yeah, he really does. He even had the Eleventh tell someone that he used, as a kid, to be told of nightmareish tales of the Daleks.
Which doesn't make sense, surely.
Re: So why do YOU think the Doctor left Gallifrey in the first place..
Similarly having him leave to face evil completely ignores how the Doctor is originally played (Hartnell never played a character call 'the first doctor' - at least not in his original run).
Similarly having him leave to face evil completely ignores how the Doctor is originally played (Hartnell never played a character call 'the first doctor' - at least not in his original run).
Re: So why do YOU think the Doctor left Gallifrey in the first place..
He hated the Time Lords' dress sense.
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121117232315/tardis/images/a/a5/TimeLordsTIOT.jpg
He hated the Time Lords' dress sense.
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121117232315/tardis/images/a/a5/TimeLordsTIOT.jpg
Re: So why do YOU think the Doctor left Gallifrey in the first place..
I dunno, the First Doctor was a tricky bugger. Assuming he'd heard of Daleks, but was forbidden from actually meeting them due to Time Lord wussi... Non-interventionism... Then he may have suspected where he was when he landed on Skaro. Note he sabotages the TARDIS to force the group to explore... I bet he knew damn well what he'd run into and just played dumb so as not to get Ian and Barbara mad at him. He wanted to see the monsters for himself and find out if they were really that bad.
Alternatively, it's unlikely, but the Time War might have actually influenced Gallifrey's past so that the Doctor's own history changed. The original First Doctor may genuinely have been in the dark...
I dunno, the First Doctor was a tricky bugger. Assuming he'd heard of Daleks, but was forbidden from actually meeting them due to Time Lord wussi... Non-interventionism... Then he may have suspected where he was when he landed on Skaro. Note he sabotages the TARDIS to force the group to explore... I bet he knew damn well what he'd run into and just played dumb so as not to get Ian and Barbara mad at him. He wanted to see the monsters for himself and find out if they were really that bad.
Alternatively, it's unlikely, but the Time War might have actually influenced Gallifrey's past so that the Doctor's own history changed. The original First Doctor may genuinely have been in the dark...
Re: So why do YOU think the Doctor left Gallifrey in the first place..
Just a thought, and I may be wrong on this as it's been a while since I've watched Remembrance, but was it implied that the first Doctor placed the hand of Omega in 1963 specifically so he could use it to destroy the Daleks later, or did Seven merely make use of it in this way (and One was just keeping it generally safe?)
Just a thought, and I may be wrong on this as it's been a while since I've watched Remembrance, but was it implied that the first Doctor placed the hand of Omega in 1963 specifically so he could use it to destroy the Daleks later, or did Seven merely make use of it in this way (and One was just keeping it generally safe?)
Re: So why do YOU think the Doctor left Gallifrey in the first place..
He took it to (quite literally) bury it away where no one would find it.
He took it to (quite literally) bury it away where no one would find it.
Re: So why do YOU think the Doctor left Gallifrey in the first place..
Well... that's ambiguous. Nothing in what he says implies he just wanted to hide the Hand. All he says is that when he was last in 1963, he left it behind (and had made plans to bury it, but nothing suggests he hadn't planned for the Daleks to dig it up).
His comments to Ace make it clear he IS using the Hand to bait the Daleks into a trap ("the only problem is, I wasn't expecting two Dalek factions"). But whether the First Doctor was always intending that, or whether the Doctor came up with the scheme after he noticed the Daleks were following him around his timeline, is another matter.
Well... that's ambiguous. Nothing in what he says implies he just wanted to hide the Hand. All he says is that when he was last in 1963, he left it behind (and had made plans to bury it, but nothing suggests he hadn't planned for the Daleks to dig it up).
His comments to Ace make it clear he IS using the Hand to bait the Daleks into a trap ("the only problem is, I wasn't expecting two Dalek factions"). But whether the First Doctor was always intending that, or whether the Doctor came up with the scheme after he noticed the Daleks were following him around his timeline, is another matter.
Re: So why do YOU think the Doctor left Gallifrey in the first place..
As I don't think we're really going to get a straight answer to it anyway, despite the buildup with the confession disc and whatnot, I see no point in speculating. It's just one of those things about the Doctor we're not meant to know, and the actual answer would only disappoint us anyway. Just like his name, which I point out we still haven't learned despite the fact it was a central plot point of an episode a couple years ago.
As I don't think we're really going to get a straight answer to it anyway, despite the buildup with the confession disc and whatnot, I see no point in speculating. It's just one of those things about the Doctor we're not meant to know, and the actual answer would only disappoint us anyway. Just like his name, which I point out we still haven't learned despite the fact it was a central plot point of an episode a couple years ago.
Re: So why do YOU think the Doctor left Gallifrey in the first place..
This is a question that's been answered on the original series. He left because he was bored and because he wanted to get involved. Nothing more needs to be "answered".
Agree with Wormhole that we're not going to get a straight answer (hopefully!) and I'm getting a bit tired of all these hooks that Moffat feels compelled to place all over (the serpent, War Minister, Hybrid, leaving Gallifrey, etc). Some are fun, but too many are too many!
Mr Awe
This is a question that's been answered on the original series. He left because he was bored and because he wanted to get involved. Nothing more needs to be "answered".
Agree with Wormhole that we're not going to get a straight answer (hopefully!) and I'm getting a bit tired of all these hooks that Moffat feels compelled to place all over (the serpent, War Minister, Hybrid, leaving Gallifrey, etc). Some are fun, but too many are too many!
Mr Awe
Re: So why do YOU think the Doctor left Gallifrey in the first place..
He stole a legendary stellar manipulation device and an infinitely more dangerous time machine, and took his own granddaughter with him to boot, apparently making permanent exiles of both of them. Sounds like he was running from, or to, something pretty urgent. Maybe it's connected with his obsession with Earth, maybe not.
He stole a legendary stellar manipulation device and an infinitely more dangerous time machine, and took his own granddaughter with him to boot, apparently making permanent exiles of both of them. Sounds like he was running from, or to, something pretty urgent. Maybe it's connected with his obsession with Earth, maybe not.
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