Overwhelming Incompetence: a.k.a Government Healthcare

[Amaris]

Sure, younger people who are in good health get a bit of the short end, but if they'll just look ahead, they will see that the benefit will catch up to them in the long run.

Similarly, let's hope that:

1. The ACA will not end up being as unstable as Social Security.
2. Social Security will also still be there in the long run.

Firstly, the ACA and Social Security are two totally different animals. The ACA is an enforcement and leveraging initiative, while Social Security is a funding system built on present cost and future ability.

Secondly, Social Security was only in trouble because members of our Congress decided to occasionally (read: frequently) raid the fund for their own projects, supposedly with the intent of putting it back later, which they ended up not doing.

 

[sojourner]

Hi, I checked into a hospital on Thanksgiving day of last year and spent the entire rest of the 2014 there thanks to heart failure, kidney issues and lung issues.
Never saw a bill at all thanks to Medicaid!


Thanks Obama!

 

[Venardhi]

I signed up in California without needing to jump through any such hoops. Of course, I signed up within weeks of the exchange launching and found out fairly quickly I didn't make enough to qualify for the exchange and within another month or two had a card (and far more literature than I needed) from the State of California for my shiny new Medicaid, which I have used exactly never in the last 2 years or however long it has been online. (You're welcome taxpayers.) If you and your wife make as little as your post suggests, you should easily qualify for the same given your household.

My brother and his wife sounded a lot like you when they were signing up last year. They're also both of a similar political stripe. I think we can safely assume, given the evidence, that the people in charge of Obamacare are just intentionally making things difficult for Republicans.

 

[JWPlatt]

There are those who will complain and blame the opposing side whether something is working or not. Nothing works for everyone. And of the side opposed, they blame the opposing for interfering with something that would otherwise work fine. It is said that the best compromise is one where no one is completely happy.

 

[MacLeod]

There are those who will complain and blame the opposing side whether something is working or not. Nothing works for everyone. And of the side opposed, they blame the opposing for interfering with something that would otherwise work fine. It is said that the best compromise is one where no one is completely happy.

True, but the first step to that is accepting you may not get everything you want and have a willingness to compromise.

 

[Marc]

There are those who will complain and blame the opposing side whether something is working or not. Nothing works for everyone. And of the side opposed, they blame the opposing for interfering with something that would otherwise work fine. It is said that the best compromise is one where no one is completely happy.

you mean like the same people who rant and rave about Obama care yet ignore the fact it was pretty much the same as an idea advocated by the very conservative Heritage Foundation?

Had the same system been implemented by a Republican president they would be signing it's praises.

 

[C. Cole-Chakotay]

Telling my age here, but I'm glad I'm on Medicare. I have Medicare Part A, Part B (which is deducted monthly from my Social Security check), and Part D for prescription coverage. I have a cheap prescription plan that meets my needs.

 

[Amaris]

I just had another lab taken today to check my cholesterol and triglycerides. My doctor is hoping the intense medication regimen he's put me on is starting to bring those numbers down. I'll probably know by tomorrow what the results are, and my fingers are crossed that they have lowered significantly these past two months.

If it weren't for Medicaid, I would have no way of combating these dangerous levels. Hence why I said I would have likely never saw my 40th birthday if it weren't for the PPACA making it so I could get help. I had no resources and they stepped in to give me a hand up.

No matter what President Obama has done elsewhere, this affects me personally, and for that I'll always be grateful to him, to every member of Congress who helped push it through, and to my own state governor, who fought to make sure the PPACA exchanges (including the expansion of Medicaid) were put into effect here.

 

[nightwind1]

You notice the OP hasn't come back to address any of the other posts in this thread?

 

[Karzak]

Let's be fair. He has a wife and child and generally speaking, people don't check in as much on the boards over the weekend.

That said, it'd sure be nice to hear back from the OP given what a response his thread has generated.

 

[Tora Ziyal]

^ Yes, it would be.

Telling my age here, but I'm glad I'm on Medicare. I have Medicare Part A, Part B (which is deducted monthly from my Social Security check), and Part D for prescription coverage. I have a cheap prescription plan that meets my needs.

I was uninsurable for a couple years before I became eligible for Medicare. Luckily my state had a really good program -- one of the models for the ACA -- for those of us who were otherwise uninsurable. Grateful for that program and for Medicare.

I used to be quick to point out that I was on Medicare early, because I get SSDI, but now I'm 65 anyway.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Let's be fair. He has a wife and child and generally speaking, people don't check in as much on the boards over the weekend.

That said, it'd sure be nice to hear back from the OP given what a response his thread has generated.

If the OP's history is any indication, it'll be a combination of blanket dismissal and doubling down.

 

[JWPlatt]

One post to the thread isn't exactly a "history." Maybe he's open-minded enough to accept other points of view and discuss them... eventually. I hope he will.

 

[Karzak]

Let's be fair. He has a wife and child and generally speaking, people don't check in as much on the boards over the weekend.

That said, it'd sure be nice to hear back from the OP given what a response his thread has generated.

If the OP's history is any indication, it'll be a combination of blanket dismissal and doubling down.

If so, then that would be unfortunate. I do understand the convenience of being able to vent online, and I certainly understand doing so under the umbrella of politicized motivations, but I'm going to choose to remain optimistic the OP will return and continue this discussion with an open mind.

Perhaps his experience with the ACA will have improved by now?

 

[Robert Maxwell]

One post to the thread isn't exactly a "history." Maybe he's open-minded enough to accept other points of view and discuss them... eventually. I hope he will.

This is not his first thread, you know.

 

[Amaris]

I got my lab results back today.


Triglycerides
July 2015: 1111
Today: 212

Cholesterol
July 2015: 281
Today: 152

 

[RoJoHen]

The whole ACA thing is just confusing to me right now. I hear stories of people who are now paying way more money than they were before, and then I hear stories of how Obamacare saved their lives and didn't cost them a penny.

My personal insurance premiums went up an additional $50/month.

My roommate just found out he had a melanoma on his face, and he had to have it removed. After the insurance, it still cost him $6,000 out of pocket. He had to refinance his car just to be able to make payments!

I'll have more faith in this new system once I see some more consistency in everybody's experiences. Right now I don't think it knows what it's doing.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I get health insurance through my employer, but I haven't seen my costs increase because of the ACA. I have seen at least one benefit from it, though: I no longer have to put down a copay when I go in for a physical.

 

[BillJ]

I got my lab results back today.


Triglycerides
July 2015: 1111
Today: 212

Cholesterol
July 2015: 281
Today: 152

You don't get it? Without the ACA, you'd be dead and no longer eating up hardworking tax payer dollars! Why are you so selfish, J.?!?

 

[Amaris]

The whole ACA thing is just confusing to me right now. I hear stories of people who are now paying way more money than they were before, and then I hear stories of how Obamacare saved their lives and didn't cost them a penny.

My personal insurance premiums went up an additional $50/month.

My roommate just found out he had a melanoma on his face, and he had to have it removed. After the insurance, it still cost him $6,000 out of pocket. He had to refinance his car just to be able to make payments!

I'll have more faith in this new system once I see some more consistency in everybody's experiences. Right now I don't think it knows what it's doing.

Because the ACA mainly covers people who were uninsured/underinsured. If you had employer coverage before, you still have it. That's on your employer's insurance provider, along with the options made by the employer themselves.

It also depends upon whether or not your state authorized the medicaid expansion. In Ohio, it was authorized, which is why I was able to get help.

You can thank the Republicans for fracturing the hell out of it, though, as the Republican congress repeatedly try to repeal it, and pared it down to far less than it was.

That being said, what's left is still enough to save lives, but we will need better; we need single payer. I doubt few here will disagree with that.

I got my lab results back today.


Triglycerides
July 2015: 1111
Today: 212

Cholesterol
July 2015: 281
Today: 152

You don't get it? Without the ACA, you'd be dead and no longer eating up hardworking tax payer dollars! Why are you so selfish, J.?!?

Me and my selfish desire to live! Why won't I decrease the surplus population?!