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"Before the Flood" Grading and Discussion Thread

How do you rate "Before the Flood"?

  • Excellent

    Votes: 20 27.4%
  • Very Good

    Votes: 29 39.7%
  • Good

    Votes: 17 23.3%
  • Decent

    Votes: 6 8.2%
  • Rubbish

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • Total voters
    73
The overnights were back over 4 million, 4.38, still down on the first week (but not by much) but a definite improvement on the last two weeks.

And The X-Factor is back week at which point they'll get hit again. In fact in terms of competition, this week was the best chance for the ratings the series will get this year.
 
I found the "the real question is: where is this cup of tea from?" from the episode 9/2(?) was already a break of the fourth wall. I hope they refrain from doing that too often, this kind of "brilliant author shows off" gets stale very soon.

It's fun to notice something like the tea and the answer is usually something like "because he's the Doctor!". Just outright pointing it out takes the magic out of it.

Similarly, having the Doctor give a lecture on the bootstrap paradox (Google it, idiot!) spoils how the plot will be resolved.

On another tangent, doesn't constantly mentioning Google, Facebook and Twitter go against the BBC not advertising?
 
I think the TARDIS was recording the Paradox explanation for Clara to view. That's why he does a throw back to it later with Clara, assuming she saw it.

All The Doctor played was the opening of the Fifth, then the title music came on.
 
What I really want to know is...
1. What kind of guitar he's playing? The whammy bar is REALLY thick, just like the ones Ritchie Blackmore used to have put on his Stratocasters because he kept breaking the standard ones.
2. What kind of amp is that Magpie really?
 
What I really want to know is...
1. What kind of guitar he's playing? The whammy bar is REALLY thick, just like the ones Ritchie Blackmore used to have put on his Stratocasters because he kept breaking the standard ones.
2. What kind of amp is that Magpie really?

I thought I saw it mentioned it's a Yamaha.

And see this: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Magpie_Electricals
EDIT: oops never mind, I get the question now...
 
I think the TARDIS was recording the Paradox explanation for Clara to view. That's why he does a throw back to it later with Clara, assuming she saw it.

All The Doctor played was the opening of the Fifth, then the title music came on.

The are a couple of answers.

!.) Like the David--the music was always there--it just needed the noise removed out from around it. Perhaps there is a dog-ness that exists before canines evolved. An algorithm is a sound concept before it is ever worked out. There is also the many worlds idea.

2.) There was a real Beethoven after all.
He just landed the Tardis on him and like a certain Ood, just breathed in the rhythm.
 
The overnights were back over 4 million, 4.38, still down on the first week (but not by much) but a definite improvement on the last two weeks.

And The X-Factor is back week at which point they'll get hit again. In fact in terms of competition, this week was the best chance for the ratings the series will get this year.

We'll see I guess.

I wonder how many people tuned in for the 2nd part not having seen the first?
 
Can we pretend they were calling him "The Fissure King" instead of "The Fisher King?" The former gives him an air of mystery and dignity, the latter just makes me think of how ill-suited the character is to the legendary figure(s) of the same name.
 
Just had a thought.

Couldn't the holo doc have trapped the ghosts earlier by using the fisher king's roar? In fact what the hell was the point of the Holo Doc releasing the other ghosts?



I think it's def on earlier next week.
The earlier time of 8:20pm :borg:
I remember when the show used to go out at 7pm. Some kids would be on the way to bed at 8:20pm.
 
I don't know what to make of this episode.

Parts of it were good, and others annoyed me.

So the sonic shades can do holograms, wow can they make a cuppa too?

Why couldn't the ghosts be stopped? Instead now UNIT will have a nice time carting them off and disposing of them somehow..

And what about those doors? They were supposed to have round windows but water seemed to flow through the port holes as if there were no windows. Even when closed haha..

20 minutes into last week's episode I tagged the Doctor as being the one inside the casket... 5/10 for this 2nd part.



BTW the dam might flood the town but how can it stay flooded? Water recedes over time... doesn't it?
 
Shouldn't the O'Donnell ghost have been there with Prentis in the first half? From our perspective, she was the fourth to die, but she was the second the Fisher King killed chronologically.
 
Shouldn't the O'Donnell ghost have been there with Prentis in the first half? From our perspective, she was the fourth to die, but she was the second the Fisher King killed chronologically.

I guess it depends on whose watch you're looking at.
 
I found the "the real question is: where is this cup of tea from?" from the episode 9/2(?) was already a break of the fourth wall.

It's fun to notice something like the tea and the answer is usually something like "because he's the Doctor!". Just outright pointing it out takes the magic out of it.

The tea was from the Tardis - it was a hint to the fact that Tardis had survived. The Doctor rode Davros's chair to the spot where the Tardis had been, the Daleks all shot at him, the screen all whites out like it had when they had 'destroyed' the Tardis, but he's still there and miraculously has a cup of tea. I think he just nipped into the still-there Tardis and grabbed a cuppa while they weren't looking. And him saying "the real question is..." was him teasing them about what they didn't know.

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I voted good, but I could have gone lower. For me this was the weakest so far.

It looked great and had bits in I liked but there was plenty I didn't care for.

Almost everything I wanted to say has ben said already, 8:20 is too late though.
 
This episode was fine. I enjoyed it well enough.

Though I have to say, for a season that is nothing but two-parters, I was expecting all of the stories to be more important. This one was not.

I also felt like it was a waste of the costume department's talents. The Fisher King or whatever was a fairly impressive piece of work (aside from the mouth movements), but it barely even had a role in the episode. It talked for a while, and then it died.
 
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