Sure why not. It could be a fantasy he's having while making love to Missy.
"Before the Flood" Grading and Discussion Thread
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Sure why not. It could be a fantasy he's having while making love to Missy.
Why not?
There were fake cities like that, I remember an article from the 1980s about a fake german town in the USA so the military could better train for a russian invasion and get used to specific things US americans would not know otherwise. (edit: they assumed the war would be in Germany at the border).
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Stylistically I liked the episode, I liked the opening although paradox by another name is paradox and we didn't need it spelled out to us (thus giving away the solution to the dilemma the Doctor face. . Heavy metal theme I liked.
Unfortunately the solution is a bit too simple. I was hoping for something a bit cleverer from the Doctor. I was getting the sense it was going the way of 'Bill and Ted' and while it didn't totally do that it basically played the paradox to his own advantage.
Unfortunately the solution is a bit too simple. I was hoping for something a bit cleverer from the Doctor. I was getting the sense it was going the way of 'Bill and Ted' and while it didn't totally do that it basically played the paradox to his own advantage.
Well cheers for making me feel dumb, y'all. Clearly I don't watch nearly enough movies or TV to keep up with all this Sherlocking going on.
It was shot on an Army base; the fake town was there, all they added was a few posters and signs.
So it was an add-in to explain an interesting location. That's fine.
Though not in alignment with above, as it is a tangent, I did like the depiction of how Cass perceives her surroundings. Having her other senses, such as touch enhanced by her deafness, she could sense Moran coming behind her and react accordingly.
Strangely, I was thinking, that if the relationship between Cass and Lunn became more and they had children, would their children experience the Dalek invasion and has that invasion been shifted over to an alternate timeline and the Cass/Lunn children might never experience the invasion?
Strangely, I was thinking, that if the relationship between Cass and Lunn became more and they had children, would their children experience the Dalek invasion and has that invasion been shifted over to an alternate timeline and the Cass/Lunn children might never experience the invasion?
Not quite, a Potemkin is a fake town to convince the ruler that the subjects have a lovely life (see Why The Queen Thinks Everywhere Smells of New Paint), rather than a training spy base. But the two ovrrlap.
Yes, thank you.
But not for spies but for invasion troops.
They were meant as real-life-wargame training for military troops: how to find your way around in a Westgerman city in WW3 (speaking about architecture etc. here).
And the article was something like "look what they plan to do! They have already written us down!"
Unfortunaltey I didn't keep it, would be fun to read today.
I liked the two-parter. The second part was a little less exciting but that's not unusual.
There was a lot of classic who-feeling and it was nice to see some doctor who without the pseudo-profound self-centered character reflections that seems to dominate every second episode.
edit: Oh, I forgot: I didn't like the Beethoven thing at all. if this show goes on for another 50 years, will there be artists left that did their work without the doctor's help? And Beethoven wrote more than symphonies and concertos.
Still, comparing to the other episodes it deservers 6 stars. (edit 2: oh, only 5 ... then 5...
I don't think he was implying he'd written Beethoven's work or even helped, just using him as an example of the bootstrap paradox and pointing out he'd met him.
It was a great location but you do have to wonder if we'll see it again in another form?
Nothing wrong with breaking the fourth wall or winking at the audience, provided that it's done well. It appears that the franchise has done it quite a few times, and frequently in the recent past. Strange that they didn't include Morgus's soliloquys from The Caves Of Androzani, which for all I know may have been the origin of the ones in House Of Cards
The pre-titles sequence in Before The Flood could be acquitted of breaking the fourth wall. Since the TARDIS apparently has scanners that don't require a camera present on scene, he could be having a video conference with a friend or recording a video message. The theme tune excerpt could represent practically anything. Chicanery, perhaps, but maybe not too egregious.
The pre-titles sequence in Before The Flood could be acquitted of breaking the fourth wall. Since the TARDIS apparently has scanners that don't require a camera present on scene, he could be having a video conference with a friend or recording a video message. The theme tune excerpt could represent practically anything. Chicanery, perhaps, but maybe not too egregious.
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I'm sure you're right. I will watch the episode again, I saw it once a little after midnight.
But you know how it works: whatever is actually written in the script gets simplified over time and in the end the doctor was Beethoven. In 2020 it'll be "Wasn't he Beethoven too?" "Yeah sure, dude!"
Well that was my take
The overnights were back over 4 million, 4.38, still down on the first week (but not by much) but a definite improvement on the last two weeks.
Looks like the Rugby and other competition did have an effect. I'd also be willing to put the rest of the drop on the later start times... Much past 19:30 and younger kids will be in bed, so families may choose to watch on catchup.
A misunderstanding of stage directions that the director liked and kept, according to TVTropes!