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Spoilers Arrow - Season 4

I think the grave is going to be the LoT springboard.

I don't think so. The caption said it's six months from now, which would be April, but the episodes setting up Legends will air in December and the show itself will debut in January. These shows tend to stick pretty close to real time.



I thought it was Felicity too but I agree with Clegg's assessment and I can't see them killing her off. She's popular. I hope it's not Diggle's wife. She seems like a candidate.

I think it's probably Lance -- by dramatic logic, if he's been corrupted by Darhk, it'd be hard to redeem himself for that short of a heroic sacrifice. But Lyla was my second thought.


Ollie posing as a new guy and people buying it is weak but it is what it is.

I was expecting that they'd at least change the voice treatment a bit, maybe make it a bit less deep.


"This is so cool!" Really? They're shooting at you while you're on a motorcycle.

That's the whole point -- that Thea isn't quite right in the head after her Lazarus Pit experience. She strikes me as basically like that guy in this week's Minority Report episode who'd been conditioned to lose all his fears and inhibitions and was acting reckless and violent as a result.


So is Shield done with Dugan? I only ask because, while they're now several actors who've crossed the streams, I can't think of anyone who's done so concurrently.

Dugan would be more likely to show up on Agent Carter. I'm sure he could slip away long enough to do one or two guest appearances, since it's a midseason show that would be airing during Arrow's break anyway.
 
It wasn't amazing, but I enjoyed it.
The set up for Darhk was pretty good, I knew they were going into more mystical stuff with Constantine and Sarah's resurrection, but I did not expect Darhk to have powers. The whole part before Lance showed up with Darhk makes me think he's getting his powers from kind of being that he is worshipping.
Diggle's helmet did look a little better in action, but I still don't love it. I do love the new Green Arrow suit, and Thea looks great in the Red Arrow/Speedy suit.
I'm a big Olicity shipper, so I got a kick out of their stuff in the beginning.
Not sure what to make of the flashback's yet, we didn't see enough stuff to judge it. Hopefully it'll at least be better than last season.
I loved the introduction of Ollie as Green Arrow.
 
...and Thea looks great in the Red Arrow/Speedy suit.

Absolutely. I don't know what it is, but she's really hot in that mask and hood. She looks a thousand times better as a superhero than Katie Cassidy does.


Not sure what to make of the flashback's yet, we didn't see enough stuff to judge it. Hopefully it'll at least be better than last season.

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that they've already sent Ollie back to Lian Yu. It would've been kind of cheating if he hadn't gone back to the island until, say, late in season 5. But it is a bit surprising, since the previews had given me the impression that the flashbacks this year would focus on Ollie's proto-vigilante training in Coast City. I guess that was an intentional fakeout, and it worked.


I loved the introduction of Ollie as Green Arrow.

Did you note the mention that Cisco made the new costume?
 
Yeah, he appears to have become the go to guy when it comes to tech and suits. Which is fine with me, it makes more sense then just stumbling across the stuff, or having one of the Team Arrow members suddenly become an inventor.
I think I forgot to comment on Capt. Lance before. I really don't think he's actually gone bad, I got more of them impression that he just didn't realize who Darhk was and what he was up to until it was to late.
 
I don't know. My first thought was along the same line as Guy's: he agreed to help DD because he said he could bring back Sara. But I think he only "goes bad" in the same sense that Moira was bad in season 1.
 
I don't know. My first thought was along the same line as Guy's: he agreed to help DD because he said he could bring back Sara. But I think he only "goes bad" in the same sense that Moira was bad in season 1.

My theory as well. Really liked this one (except: enough with the friggin flashbacks already), oh, and I think Olicity has a real fun chemistry together.
As for the grave, my money is on Diggle, the way they highlighted his domestic life and his issues with Ollie...
 
Awesome sauce.

Lance sells his soul being all underhanded to bring Sarah back, BUT before the deal is sealed... Malcolm nijas in and reboots the little blonde girl first.

Would that mean that Lance gets a refund, or can ask for a different recoupment for his services, or is Damien good to his word and leaving another resurrection of Standby for the next time Sarah dies?
 
I'm curious what kind of mystical stuff Ollie is going to run into in the flashbacks.
Honestly, I'm starting to wish they would either give up the flashbacks or find some new period to set them in other than his time "missing". They're closing in on the start of the show, and it's starting to feel to me like they're stretching for ideas to keep them going. Maybe they could go for the Lost and Once Upon a Time route and start giving us more flashbacks for other characters.
 
I have a feeling mysticism is going to be responsible for Oliver having the ability to speak foreign languages fluently. There's no way he can master Russian, Mandarin, Spanish, and Arabic all in less than two years.
 
Lance is going to learn everything he can from Darhk, fake his own death, move to Chicago and change his name to Dresden.
 
It wouldn't surprise me if the death turns out to have been faked or results in the character coming back somehow.

Looks like everyone's onboard with Lance.
 
"This is so cool!" Really? They're shooting at you while you're on a motorcycle.
That's the whole point -- that Thea isn't quite right in the head after her Lazarus Pit experience.
Maybe but it didn't come off that way. It was like the show wasn't taking its own premise seriously enough and tried to inject a little comic book-style levity.
 
Life and death certainly has a different meaning for Thea now, she has no fear of death now. I really think we didn't need that final scene. I did find Ollie and Felicity's domestic life rather odd.
 
"This is so cool!" Really? They're shooting at you while you're on a motorcycle.
That's the whole point -- that Thea isn't quite right in the head after her Lazarus Pit experience.
Maybe but it didn't come off that way. It was like the show wasn't taking its own premise seriously enough and tried to inject a little comic book-style levity.

But that's just what we were supposed to think. It started out seeming like Thea was just having fun and being all light and breezy, which made it more shocking when she lost it and went all Clockwork Orange on that thug.

And by the way, actual DC comics these days don't have a lot of levity, as a rule. Well, some of them do, but for the most part, DC has spent the past three decades trying to copy Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns and embrace the ultra-grim.
 
Remember the heart condition?

Although selling out the city to avoid a natural death is tacky.

Who brings Sarah back?

I assumed it was Malcolm Merlin, but Damien has his own supply of lazerus water

OH!

HAL FRICKING JORDAN ON SCREEN!!!!

WOOP! WOOP!

RE: Hal Freaking Jordan. :p

I wondered what you were talking about until I rewatched the ep and saw the "name" on the leather jacket in the bar. Here's to hoping HE doesn't work for Waller!

As for who brings Sara back... I trust my eyes and the promo. (I know, I know.... "rookie mistake" :rolleyes: )
 
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