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Strange New Worlds-Worth the read?

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I notice they are only 1.99 for the Kindle but I want some opinions before I start clicking the button.

I'm mostly interested in DS9 and Voyager stories at the moment but I'm sure I'll get around to TOS and TNG eventually. My preferences usually run in cycles. ;)

So if anyone has read them..what did you think?

And why wasn't this concept continued? Anyone know?
 
I admittedly haven't read any of these in at least a decade (probably longer), but some of the stories were quite fun!
 
I notice they are only 1.99 for the Kindle but I want some opinions before I start clicking the button.

I'm mostly interested in DS9 and Voyager stories at the moment but I'm sure I'll get around to TOS and TNG eventually. My preferences usually run in cycles. ;)

There tend to be fewer DS9 stories in SNW than TOS, TNG, or VGR stories. For some reason, they just got fewer DS9 submissions.


So if anyone has read them..what did you think?

Like any anthologies, they're a mixed bag. There are some real gems there, but they aren't all gems. And there are some recurring themes that were maybe overused, like "City on the Edge of Forever" sequels, Borg stories, tribble stories, reactions to the death of Kirk, Iotia stories, etc. (And there is actually a Borg tribble story.)


And why wasn't this concept continued? Anyone know?

It continued far longer than anyone could've expected. It was a costly proposition -- handling all the submissions, hiring extra editors to judge and narrow down the stories, awarding the prizes -- and it wasn't a huge enough seller to offset that, so Pocket didn't make a profit off of it. Eventually they just couldn't afford to keep doing it. It's amazing they stuck with it for ten years anyway.
 
Thanks.

I think I am a little afraid of spending time and money on something that in the end would amount to little more than glorified fanfiction with all the accompanying tropes. If I want that I'll just go read 'real' fanfiction. :p

a Borg tribble story

I am a bit intrigued.
 
I think I am a little afraid of spending time and money on something that in the end would amount to little more than glorified fanfiction with all the accompanying tropes. If I want that I'll just go read 'real' fanfiction. :p

Well, perhaps the biggest misunderstanding of SNW is the idea that it was a "fanfiction anthology." Rather, the whole point of it was that it was a chance for new writers to earn their first (or second or third) professional credit. While there's surely plenty of good fanfiction in the world, there really isn't any quality control, since anyone can publish anything. The stories in SNW were submitted to professional editors and held to professional standards, and had to outcompete hundreds of other stories to be judged worthy of inclusion. On the other hand, since they were officially licensed Trek fiction, they had to stay within the basic parameters of the official Trek universe, and so they weren't as deconstructive, transgressive, or transformative as fanfiction is often able to be (although there were some rather ambitious experiments here and there, enough that the anthologies actually started adding a "Speculations" section in later volumes). So it would be a mistake to equate the stories with fanfiction.

Like I said, there are some real gems in SNW. But as with any anthology, you're probably going to like some stories much more than others. Heck, the same goes for the TV shows. For every "The Inner Light" or "The Visitor," there are a bunch of middle-of-the-road episodes and the occasional dud. That doesn't mean the shows aren't worth watching, though.
 
I think I am a little afraid of spending time and money on something that in the end would amount to little more than glorified fanfiction with all the accompanying tropes. If I want that I'll just go read 'real' fanfiction. :p

Well, perhaps the biggest misunderstanding of SNW is the idea that it was a "fanfiction anthology." Rather, the whole point of it was that it was a chance for new writers to earn their first (or second or third) professional credit. While there's surely plenty of good fanfiction in the world, there really isn't any quality control, since anyone can publish anything. The stories in SNW were submitted to professional editors and held to professional standards, and had to outcompete hundreds of other stories to be judged worthy of inclusion. On the other hand, since they were officially licensed Trek fiction, they had to stay within the basic parameters of the official Trek universe, and so they weren't as deconstructive, transgressive, or transformative as fanfiction is often able to be (although there were some rather ambitious experiments here and there, enough that the anthologies actually started adding a "Speculations" section in later volumes). So it would be a mistake to equate the stories with fanfiction.

Like I said, there are some real gems in SNW. But as with any anthology, you're probably going to like some stories much more than others. Heck, the same goes for the TV shows. For every "The Inner Light" or "The Visitor," there are a bunch of middle-of-the-road episodes and the occasional dud. That doesn't mean the shows aren't worth watching, though.

Thanks again. That goes a long way to addressing my concerns.

I think I'll download the first one and take it from there
 
There were a lot of SNW stories that I really liked, such as:

- The Immortality Blues
- A Test Of Character
- Best Tools Available
- Our Million-Year Mission
- Dawn
- Guardians
- Gone Native

There are others, of course. :)

I even noticed that some bits which originated in SNW have made it into mainstream Treklit, such as the name "T'Rama" for the mother of Sarek ("A Girl For Every Star").
 
I remember liking I, thinking II was okay, and then calling it quits after III. I went back for VII and 09, which were also middle-of-the-road. There are some definite gems throughout the five volumes I read, but not enough for the cost of a trade paperback. Maybe enough for the cost of an eBook, though!
 
If the e-books are that cheap, I should probably buy them. I have all but V, VI, and 09 in paperback form, but my e-books of the others are in the defunct eReader format, and once I get a new computer, I won't be able to read them anymore. (The company offered free conversions to a new format for a limited time, but I was preoccupied with work and stuff so I lost track of time and missed my chance.)

Then again, my computer hasn't died yet, so I don't really need to replace them right away. Is this low price for a limited time or is it standard?
 
If the e-books are that cheap, I should probably buy them. I have all but V, VI, and 09 in paperback form, but my e-books of the others are in the defunct eReader format, and once I get a new computer, I won't be able to read them anymore. (The company offered free conversions to a new format for a limited time, but I was preoccupied with work and stuff so I lost track of time and missed my chance.)

Then again, my computer hasn't died yet, so I don't really need to replace them right away. Is this low price for a limited time or is it standard?

Only the first volume is $1.99, when I last looked.
 
I have all of the SNW volumes (and both of Bantam's TNV volumes) in hardcopy.

And I enjoyed all of them.

On the whole, I found the SNW stories to be a good deal better than the TNV stories. Indeed, I found them better than some of the pieces in other ST anthologies, anthologies whose authors had already turned pro, including at least one piece that won an award (I won't say which one, but there is reason to believe that the author was also one of the architects of the infamous "Requiem for a Martian" hoax).
 
The key difference between The New Voyages and SNW (well, aside from TNV having only one series to draw on) is that the stories in The New Voyages actually were fanfiction to begin with -- the anthologies were reprinting stories that had previously been published in fanzines (although they were edited for the anthology).
 
SNW II is especially worth one's while. Why,"The First Law of Metaphysics" is worth the purchase price alone. :)

In all seriousness, your mileage may vary, but I enjoyed several stories in all of the volumes, and was completely in awe of a few of them (Landon Cary Dalton's "A Private Anecdote" in #1, Ilsa Bick's "Ribbon for Rosie" in #2, Kevin Summers' "Isolation Ward 4" in #4 all immediately spring to mind). Plus, in what other books are you going to witness firsthand Dayton Ward's birth as a professional Trek author?

And if Pocket really is bringing back the contest for Trek's 50th anniversary, and you want to learn what it takes to win, it would be illogical to ignore ten whole volumes of fan-written, professionally published Trek fiction as a resource. The editor would, I imagine, be different; but the professional standards will be the same.
 
I've read some of them. But I have them stored away right now and can't get to them easily to reference the titles. Some really good ones that sort of stand out to me are as follows:

1. Where the EMH in "Living Witness" leaves the planet he was left on to follow Voyager's path home. It tells about the stops he made along the way.

2. After an accident in engineering (perhaps season 7 or beyond), B'Elanna and Seven keep reliving the accident over and over again. I think at one point Seven tells her everyone else on board is dead. They have to figure out how to stop the whole thing from repeating.

3. The investigation of Dr. Gillian Taylor's disappearance in 1980's San Francisco. Now that I think about it, this one might have have been called "Whales Weep Not". There's a similar story on FF.net written before this one called "A Whale of a Time" where someone mentioned the SNW story in a review.
 
1. Where the EMH in "Living Witness" leaves the planet he was left on to follow Voyager's path home. It tells about the stops he made along the way.

"Personal Log" by Kevin Killiany, SNW4. That's a good one.


2. After an accident in engineering (perhaps season 7 or beyond), B'Elanna and Seven keep reliving the accident over and over again. I think at one point Seven tells her everyone else on board is dead. They have to figure out how to stop the whole thing from repeating.

"Redux" by Susan S. McCrackin, SNW7. Not bad, but B'Elanna's hostility toward Seven doesn't quite fit the season-7 setting.


3. The investigation of Dr. Gillian Taylor's disappearance in 1980's San Francisco. Now that I think about it, this one might have have been called "Whales Weep Not". There's a similar story on FF.net written before this one called "A Whale of a Time" where someone mentioned the SNW story in a review.

Yep, "Whales Weep Not" by Juanita Nolte, SNW6. I found it unconvincing, because all the witnesses remembered the events of TVH in completely accurate and consistent detail. Eyewitness accounts are never that exact and objective.
 
I've recently started the SNW series. I want to read all the Pocket Trek and all I have left is about a third of the old numbered TOS books, most of the Shatnerverse and SNW. I've only read the first SNW and a couple stories in the second.

I thought the 'Because We Can' stories were the worst. I guess my favorite was "Of Cabbages and Kings". In the 2nd book I'm annoyed that even though there are only 2 DS9 stories and one of the winners was some meta story about a time traveling researcher giving notes to the producers of Trek and Gene Roddenberry in '64.
 
I've recently started the SNW series. I want to read all the Pocket Trek and all I have left is about a third of the old numbered TOS books, most of the Shatnerverse and SNW. I've only read the first SNW and a couple stories in the second.

I envy you, getting to read them for the first time!


I thought the 'Because We Can' stories were the worst. I guess my favorite was "Of Cabbages and Kings". In the 2nd book I'm annoyed that even though there are only 2 DS9 stories and one of the winners was some meta story about a time traveling researcher giving notes to the producers of Trek and Gene Roddenberry in '64.

Well, Paula Block and John Ordover did label their stories as included solely because they had the power and the chance. No space was taken away from stories that Dean Wesley Smith decided were of sufficient quality to be included in the book.

Fans shared your complaints, very vocally, for those first two years about the dearth of DS9 stories. Dean insisted that, if they wrote professional-level DS9 stories, he'd publish them. And they did, and subsequent volumes have a lot more DS9 in them.
 
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