Reasons to be happy / not happy about a 4th film.

[Peach Wookiee]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

JJ saved Trek, he didn't kill it. My family is watching the movies at least and that's huge. They never did before.

 

[BillJ]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

I should have seen it coming. The third picture has just started principle photography, and already the whining comes about the fourth movie. Oh, and somehow a reason is cooked up to blame J.J. Abrams. It's pathetic.

Definitely pathetic. But I have to admit that I found the whole "JJ embezzled money from Star Trek Into Darkness" story highly entertaining! People are going to have a hard time topping that one.

 

[gazomg]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

I should have seen it coming. The third picture has just started principle photography, and already the whining comes about the fourth movie. Oh, and somehow a reason is cooked up to blame J.J. Abrams. It's pathetic.

Definitely pathetic. But I have to admit that I found the whole "JJ embezzled money from Star Trek Into Darkness" story highly entertaining! People are going to have a hard time topping that one.

what has the rumor of embessling money got to do with the post you replied to n?

I do not believe there was embezzling however the JJ movies and peoples opinion of them is a completely different argument.

 

[BillJ]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

I should have seen it coming. The third picture has just started principle photography, and already the whining comes about the fourth movie. Oh, and somehow a reason is cooked up to blame J.J. Abrams. It's pathetic.

Definitely pathetic. But I have to admit that I found the whole "JJ embezzled money from Star Trek Into Darkness" story highly entertaining! People are going to have a hard time topping that one.

what has the rumor of embessling money got to do with the post you replied to n?

The whole whining part.

I do not believe there was embezzling however the JJ movies and peoples opinion of them is a completely different argument.

Opinions will always vary, not everything works for everyone. Which is fair. But generally, people overwhelmingly seem to like the Abrams films. Three-plus million people have registered scores on Netflix and Into Darkness averages a 4.3/5 star rating. It doesn't mean that everyone does or should like it, but it also debunks the tired argument that everyone thinks its a disaster.

 

[Relayer1]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

I was really hoping III was it. A trilogy and finish.

Then hopefully something completely different under the Trek banner...

 

[Shazam!]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

Good for them. The usual thing is a trilogy and then scarper. If these guys enjoy the playing the characters and the fans are accepting of that then it's win / win.

 

[Greg Cox]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

I have a bad feeing that star trek will get swallowed up by star wars. star wars has 3 huge films coming out which are sequels to the original trilogy and they have spin off films as well.

Okay? Star Trek doesn't need to hide from Star Wars, the films are being released six months apart.

Exactly. Let's be honest here. Most of us are going to end up seeing both movies in the theater, several months apart.

As I always say, STAR TREK and STAR WARS are not rival sports team. There's no rule that says you can't root for both.

 

[johnjm22]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

Part of the problem with continuing these films is that we're stuck with the Kirk/Spock/McCoy iteration of Trek.

Not that I don't love these characters, because I do, but Star Trek is living in the past.

I think an all new TV show, that's extremely well done, would serve the franchise better for both current fans, and potential new fans.

 

[gazomg]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

I accept some people will like these films.

The might be flasj, big audiences, and well made but for me its not trek as this alternate shit being done to death is simply riding a dead horse.

Then there is the issue with this sorry excuse for star trek being done the less likely we will get a tv series.

Was bad enough they are making a third, they should have left it at that

 

[BillJ]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

Part of the problem with continuing these films is that we're stuck with the Kirk/Spock/McCoy iteration of Trek.

I love these characters and am happy to be stuck with them!

 

[Greg Cox]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

Call my Pollyanna, but I actually find this encouraging. Paramount must be feeling optimistic about the third film if they're already thinking about the fourth.

To be honest, I was never quite sure why people kept talking about a trilogy. We got six TOS films and four TNG movies. So why think that NuTrek wasn't going to be an open-ended movie series as well?

 

[BillJ]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

Call my Pollyanna, but I actually find this encouraging. Paramount must be feeling optimistic about the third film if they're already thinking about the fourth.

I think it's hard to interpret it any other way. However, I don't think Paramount was ever as bearish on Star Trek 3 as some people think (nor do I think they saw Into Darkness as the failure financially that some people like to present). Orci was hired as writer/director fairly early in the process and only was removed after some kind of disagreement/falling out with Paramount.

 

[johnjm22]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

Part of the problem with continuing these films is that we're stuck with the Kirk/Spock/McCoy iteration of Trek.

I love these characters and am happy to be stuck with them!

I love these character too, but don't you want to see something new from ST eventually?

Can't live in the past forever.

 

[Greg Cox]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

Call my Pollyanna, but I actually find this encouraging. Paramount must be feeling optimistic about the third film if they're already thinking about the fourth.

I think it's hard to interpret it any other way. However, I don't think Paramount was ever as bearish on Star Trek 3 as some people think (nor do I think they saw it as the failure financially that some people like to present). Orci was hired as writer/director fairly early in the process and only was removed after some kind of disagreement/falling out with Paramount.

Oh, yeah, the perception that Movie #3 was somehow a "troubled" production was always out of proportion to what was actually going on behind the scenes. Script changes, personnel changes, "creative differences," and so on are not at all uncommon in the early, preliminary stages of a major production. That's not an omen of certain disaster; that's just standard Hollywood operating procedure.

 

[BillJ]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

Part of the problem with continuing these films is that we're stuck with the Kirk/Spock/McCoy iteration of Trek.

I love these characters and am happy to be stuck with them!

I love these character too, but don't you want to see something new from ST eventually?

Can't live in the past forever.

They're timeless for me. Much like Superman or Batman, I'm excited any time I get new adventures featuring them. That and I've had something "new" from four different spinoffs (600 episodes) and rarely have I been impressed. Everybody's mileage will vary.

I'll be there opening night for Star Trek Beyond.

 

[Franklin]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

Part of the problem with continuing these films is that we're stuck with the Kirk/Spock/McCoy iteration of Trek.

I love these characters and am happy to be stuck with them!

I love these character too, but don't you want to see something new from ST eventually?

Can't live in the past forever.

I'm getting old and I don't want to see anything new. I enjoyed the other versions of "Star Trek", but really what we're getting now is new, after a fashion. It's Kirk, Spock, and the others with something they seldom had before, an ample budget and consistently high production values all around.

I'd take six or eight high-quality movies in whatever combinations of characters I could get versus 60 to 80 new TV episodes of yet another version of a "Star Trek" show. Besides, the way things tend to be done these days, it would probably take eight or ten years to get all those shows. And like I said, I'm old (and impatient).

Besides, there's plenty of life left in Kirk and Spock. Their adventures were cut way short to begin with.

 

[Ithekro]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

Can't live in the past forever.

Technically, wouldn't that be living in the future? 23rd century you know.

 

[JWPlatt]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

Was bad enough they are making a third, they should have left it at that

I'm afraid I'll never understand the thought that discouragement and not trying where failure is guaranteed is better than encouragement and trying where success is possible.

 

[Greg Cox]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

I'm not sure it's either/or. I'm certainly open to some new TREK spin-off or update someday. Maybe even a new take on TNG or DS9 or a completely new setup. But I also see no need to put Kirk and Spock out to pasture. If Sherlock Holmes and Dracula are still going strong, I don't think the original Enterprise crew are past their expiration date.

May they live long and prosper.

 

[Gojira]

Re: Reason why I am not happy for a 4th film.

For this Trekkie, a 4th film is very welcomed news! I just don't want to wait so long...I am getting older!