• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Could CGI one day replace models or actors.

Gingerbread Demon

Gingerbread Demon

Yelling at the Vorlons
Premium Member
I'm picturing a software package where you could input the models stats as you want them, a range of clothes and locations and do virtual shoots indistinguishable from attending a shoot in person.

Just to expand on this..

I input the following..

Model 5"9 brunette <adjust facial features hair eyes>
athletic build, longish arms and legs <adjusts these to suit>
location Paris around mid day.
<inputs selection of clothes>
<starts virtual poses>
<takes photos>



Could this be done one day easily or would something like this need a lot of work to produce a package that everyone could use with a minimal learning curve?
 
I've yet to hear a synthesized voice that can perfectly mimic the subtleties and interpretation of the human voice, which seems to be something that proponents of digital actors always seem to forget. Personally, I think it would be a step backward in cultural development if you could only see a flesh and blood actor by attending a live theatre performance.
 
^like in the 24th century. Yanno those hologram characters are technically CGI...
 
Finn said:
^like in the 24th century. Yanno those hologram characters are technically CGI...
Click to expand...


Well yes the holodeck is the perfect example of this...

But I wonder if software and computing power will give us the kind of thing I imagine in my OP that wouldn't require a big learning curve.
 
I have no doubt that, very soon, it will be possible to "shoot" virtually, and rely totally on CGI. It is like Melakon said, the Voice will be the final piece. Once that is perfected, done deal.
 
Another movie dealing in these things (before its plot goes off the rails): The Congress.

My take is society will always want fresh celebrities to follow. When we see our favorite human movie characters, we want to see the actors as well as the character. Who would ever have preferred a hypothetical perfect CG representation of a young Ian McKellan, for instance, over a real Fassbender performance in a movie like First Class? No one, surely. There's a time and place for CG human characters, IMO, but mostly as brief cameo performances, a la the young Arnold in Terminator Salvation, or to finish the work of actors who die in the midst of a production, a la Paul Walker in Furious 7. Otherwise, get a real actor; it'll pay off in free gossip/publicity.

... As for models, there may be greater opportunities there. Of course so much of advertising has been extensively retouched to begin with, but I could see a company doing a series using a purely CG model for, say, magazine ads, though I'm not sure why one would bother - if you've got that kind of money, why not hire a real model for a day? It's probably a lot more fun for those involved.
 
Oh, I could not agree more, Gaith! I was responding to the OP question of "could".

I do not think "should" but I have no doubt that soon, "could" will be a reality.
 
Coco Pops 1967 said:
I'm picturing a software package where you could input the models stats as you want them, a range of clothes and locations and do virtual shoots indistinguishable from attending a shoot in person.

Just to expand on this..

I input the following..

Model 5"9 brunette <adjust facial features hair eyes>
athletic build, longish arms and legs <adjusts these to suit>
location Paris around mid day.
<inputs selection of clothes>
<starts virtual poses>
<takes photos>



Could this be done one day easily or would something like this need a lot of work to produce a package that everyone could use with a minimal learning curve?
Click to expand...
Directing and acting is based on character and talent, and that can't be computer generated. Every computer generated character to date has either an animator, a performing actor or a voice actor or a combination of those. And that won't change, ever, because you need someone to actually perform.

If there will be artificial intelligence capable of actually "performing", what's the point? Actors act because they like to act. It's a natural part of human behaviour to want to entertain others. We will never take that away from ourselves.

Why should we ever have a bunch of AIs (director, writer, actor, composer, cinematographer, editor, etc...) doing movies for us?
 
56472040_zpssylxg5e3.jpg
 
JarodRussell said:
Coco Pops 1967 said:
I'm picturing a software package where you could input the models stats as you want them, a range of clothes and locations and do virtual shoots indistinguishable from attending a shoot in person.

Just to expand on this..

I input the following..

Model 5"9 brunette <adjust facial features hair eyes>
athletic build, longish arms and legs <adjusts these to suit>
location Paris around mid day.
<inputs selection of clothes>
<starts virtual poses>
<takes photos>



Could this be done one day easily or would something like this need a lot of work to produce a package that everyone could use with a minimal learning curve?
Click to expand...
Directing and acting is based on character and talent, and that can't be computer generated. Every computer generated character to date has either an animator, a performing actor or a voice actor or a combination of those. And that won't change, ever, because you need someone to actually perform.

If there will be artificial intelligence capable of actually "performing", what's the point? Actors act because they like to act. It's a natural part of human behaviour to want to entertain others. We will never take that away from ourselves.

Why should we ever have a bunch of AIs (director, writer, actor, composer, cinematographer, editor, etc...) doing movies for us?
Click to expand...



But that wasn't what I was describing in my OP.. I was using the example of a virtual model tailored to the users needs. And fully under the users control.
 
JarodRussell said:
Coco Pops 1967 said:
I'm picturing a software package where you could input the models stats as you want them, a range of clothes and locations and do virtual shoots indistinguishable from attending a shoot in person.

Just to expand on this..

I input the following..

Model 5"9 brunette <adjust facial features hair eyes>
athletic build, longish arms and legs <adjusts these to suit>
location Paris around mid day.
<inputs selection of clothes>
<starts virtual poses>
<takes photos>



Could this be done one day easily or would something like this need a lot of work to produce a package that everyone could use with a minimal learning curve?
Click to expand...
Directing and acting is based on character and talent, and that can't be computer generated. Every computer generated character to date has either an animator, a performing actor or a voice actor or a combination of those. And that won't change, ever, because you need someone to actually perform.

If there will be artificial intelligence capable of actually "performing", what's the point? Actors act because they like to act. It's a natural part of human behaviour to want to entertain others. We will never take that away from ourselves.

Why should we ever have a bunch of AIs (director, writer, actor, composer, cinematographer, editor, etc...) doing movies for us?
Click to expand...


Director: "Move your left thigh just a little, Hal Baby!" "Just a little hint, you know what I mean!"

Hal: "I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I can't do that."



1.jpg
 
I think it could well be in the future for certain projects, i.e. fashion shoots for magazines and such where there is no requirement for any acting or speaking parts.

You would not have to go through dozens or hundreds of set cards but instead design the model exactly how you want it.

However as soon as any human skills like talking and acting comes into play that will be much harder to implement to convince another human.
 
The CGI character in Final Fantasy was supposed to become the world's first CGI actress. It didn't pan out back then.

I'd give it another shot in the 20s or early 30s.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top