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Inside Out

If you took the scripts for "Osmosis Jones" and "What Dreams May Come", tossed them in the air, and then got Pixar to make a film after picking up the pages, you'd get "Inside Out".

A good film by anyone's standards, IMO. Lots of things for both the kiddies and the adults who take them there, though I think there's even more for the grown ups this time. Lots of depth - literally and figuratively - in the mind of a little girl to be explored here. I liked it. Maybe didn't LAVA it, but liked it a lot.

Mark
 
How can I be wrong about an opinion?

"All I'm saying is that I'm not interested in this film" is an opinion, and it's a perfectly valid one, though why you feel the need to continue to reiterate it in the thread for the film you have no interest in is beyond me, especially after you made your feelings clear the first time. No one is requiring you to like or see the film. Unfortunately, that wasn't "all you were saying," and you kept trying to masquerade misguided and flat-out wrong assertions based on ignorance of the film as factual critiques, or lump your general dislike for Pixar in with an individual criticism of this film, even if the same complaints didn't apply here. You're still doing it, because you can never admit to being wrong.
 
I find it beneficial to actually see a film before I explain the reasons I dislike that film. On occasion, I choose not to see a film, but when I choose not to see a film, I tend to avoid commenting on the websites, discussion boards, and other Internet sites that are connected to the film I chose not to see.
There are no restrictions on message boards when it comes to film discussion. I might talk about a lot of films because I nor a lot of others might not have seen it (like Disorganized Crime, a film my father and I watched all the time but I doubt many have seen or could relate to why we watched it a lot, even with all the rather obious flaws.) However, the films that are on the table are those that have a broad effects on current popular culture.
 
FSM, the point of the recitation of my thought processes and actions was that I take those steps partly based on the knowledge that if I choose to state an opinion on a movie, book, or some other form of entertainment without having any actual firsthand knowledge of its content, I am most likely not going to find that people are receptive to my thoughts.
 
Yeah, no kidding.

Once again, it's kind of rude to come into a place where you have no interest in the subject matter just to declare as much.

What's the purpose in that? You just had to say something, anything?
 
All I ever really said is that
1.) Based on the foiotage I've seen, the film doesn't look good to me, and that includes the pizza dialogue that I cited before.
2) As effective as it is to cast big names just for voice work, it has gotten out of hand.

People say a lot more about B v. S and superhero movie trends, enough to choke the internet.
 
All I ever really said is that
1.) Based on the foiotage I've seen, the film doesn't look good to me, and that includes the pizza dialogue that I cited before.

Then don't watch it. And if you're not gonna watch it, what more do you have to say about it?

2) As effective as it is to cast big names just for voice work, it has gotten out of hand.

Which Locutus explained quite well is not what happened in this case, so it's an irrelevant point.

People say a lot more about B v. S and superhero movie trends, enough to choke the internet.

Which has nothing to do with this whatsoever.
 
Which has nothing to do with this whatsoever.

Have you seen BvS?
No?
Does that keep you or others from speculating about it, or talking about it broadly or specifically, or from relating it to other similar films? No.. that's what a message board is for. I haven't seen Inside Out yet, but I can certainly talk about my opinion on it.. both on what I have seen as well as how it fits into the latest filmmaking trends. Thank you very much.
 
Which has nothing to do with this whatsoever.

Have you seen BvS?
No?

Does that keep you or others from speculating about it, or talking about it broadly or specifically, or from relating it to other similar films? No.. that's what a message board is for. I haven't seen Inside Out yet, but I can certainly talk about my opinion on it.. both on what I have seen as well as how it fits into the latest filmmaking trends. Thank you very much.

:lol:

What opinion have you expressed other than "I'm not going to see this because I don't like something about it that isn't even true"?

It's one thing to speculate about a film that hasn't come out yet. That can be fun. People guess about who's going to be in it, what it'll be about, what themes might be in it, how it might end, etc. etc. etc.

You? You haven't offered up anything of interest at all. You haven't seen it. You aren't going to. The reasons you gave don't make any sense, because they aren't true. Well, I guess you didn't like a joke about pizza. I'll give you that one, pizza jokes aren't that good, generally.

I don't know how you can think the situations are comparable, but your posts are not the equivalent of speculating about BvS.

I haven't been reading those threads but, what, are they full of people saying "I'm never going to watch this because I think Christian Bale was an awful Batman"? Because that's the level of attachment to reality you've displayed with your posts here.
 
You don't know me. I love animated films. I will see this. I'm just saying that I'm not interested in it, adn that sample dialogue is reflects reasons why I'm not interested in it. But, yeah I will probably see this, when the family goes. Or when I can see it at home.

I might not like what pixar has been doing as much as others, that doesn't mean I hate them. I wish they would try to be more subtle.
 
You don't know me.

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I love animated films. I will see this. I'm just saying that I'm not interested in it, adn that sample dialogue is reflects reasons why I'm not interested in it. But, yeah I will probably see this, when the family goes. Or when I can see it at home.

You mean you're judging an entire movie based on a few lines? Tough crowd.

I might not like what pixar has been doing as much as others, that doesn't mean I hate them. I wish they would try to be more subtle.

Having actually seen this film, I can tell you there is quite a bit of subtlety to it. There are some jokes and references the kids will never get. And there are a lot of complex themes at work which aren't entirely spelled out. It's a film that's accessible to all ages yet doesn't insult anyone's intelligence. It's a genuine film about coming to terms with your own feelings, and the metaphor it uses, while derivative from a pop culture standpoint, is employed very effectively.

There are even some moments in the film that have ambiguous interpretations!

But go ahead and keep dismissing it because of a few lines you saw in a trailer, because reductionism is a lot easier than actually seeing it and judging for yourself.
 
Of course there are moments that will have ambiguous interpreations.. we are still exploring even today how emotions, dreams, and memories even formulate. Maybe it's golden inspiration for an animated film. But maybe not. I tend to think more like this guy, and we tend to have similar feelings on most films.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXC_205E3Og[/yt[
 
This movie looks like it will give me a headache.

Sensors are picking up a ship on a direct intercept for us, Captain.

All I'm saying is that I'm not interested in this film.

Hail them. Let's see what they have to say.

That being said, if you and your kids enjoy all of its complexities or what not, that's fine. It just doesn't interest me.

No response, sir. They're locking phasers!

There are no restrictions on message boards when it comes to film discussion. I might talk about a lot of films because I nor a lot of others might not have seen it (like Disorganized Crime, a film my father and I watched all the time but I doubt many have seen or could relate to why we watched it a lot, even with all the rather obious flaws.) However, the films that are on the table are those that have a broad effects on current popular culture.

Evasive action!

All I ever really said is that
1.) Based on the foiotage I've seen, the film doesn't look good to me, and that includes the pizza dialogue that I cited before.

Shields... SHIELDS!

People say a lot more about B v. S and superhero movie trends, enough to choke the internet.

Evasive pattern Sierra. Fire torpedoes!

Y I'm just saying that I'm not interested in it, adn that sample dialogue is reflects reasons why I'm not interested in it.

Pho---Ton---Tor---Pee---Do---AVAY!
 
Of course there are moments that will have ambiguous interpreations.. we are still exploring even today how emotions, dreams, and memories even formulate. Maybe it's golden inspiration for an animated film. But maybe not. I tend to think more like this guy, and we tend to have similar feelings on most films.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXC_205E3Og[/yt[

So basically, your purpose here is to just be a killjoy and not actually discuss anything?

Congrats, I guess?
 
This movie looks like it will give me a headache.
Joy: Let's get pizza.
Girl: Let's get pizza.
Mom: Pizza sounds great.
Emotions: Yay Pizza..
Me: really? This is good writing????

Well, you got the basics right, but misquoted it. It's actually this:

Joy: You know what I realized? Riley hasn't had lunch. Remember (throws memory crystal into projector)...

Riley: Hey, I saw a pizza place down the street, maybe we can try that?

Mom: Pizza sounds delicious.

Emotions: Pizza!

The only actual conversation going is between the mother and daughter, and it's a perfectly normal one. We're only hearing the extra voices because we follow the idea from inception to pleasant afterthought from the POV of her emotions. It's kind of like the whole point of the film, you see. :rolleyes: And it's early in the film so they're demonstrating how the process works. It's not like they do that the whole time.

Also, you make no note of why this dialogue is happening and what purpose it serves in your rush to declare it bad writing, which was my whole point about you parsing it and taking the scene out of context.

The reason Joy brought up pizza is because Riley's father is stressed and had to leave to deal with his new business venture (the reason for their move to San Francisco), thus stressing her out too. Riley is fighting a slew of oncoming emotions like anger, fear and sadness (who says "He doesn't love us any more"), and Joy is overwhelmed and unsure of what to do since up to now Riley's led a pretty carefree life.

So she turns to comfort food to placate those emotions, just like many of us do. This is the first example of a trend of Joy not dealing with the Sadness Riley is feeling, sometimes to her detriment, and it comes back in major, oftentimes (metaphorically) devastating ways and through acting out negatively, as eleven year olds often do.

It's actually quite cleverly written, if your dismissive attitude gave it a chance.
 
Just saw this today. It's definitely working on many levels here; there's indeed more complex issues and jokes that only adults will get. That said, this is a very good film for kids, even the little ones, as it also deals with the very basics of emotions, how to deal with them and understand them.

It's very cute, yes, but not so cute that adults won't appreciate it.
 
It's actually exceptional writing, the equal to an adult drama, if you don't parse tiny segments of it out of context instead of analyzing the writing of the film as a whole.

Like most of Pixar's films, this works on numerous levels that will appeal to all audiences, and the film's premise will be illustrated succinctly when you see young children embody the emotion of pure, carefree joy and laugh at scenes their older siblings or parents are tearing up at, because they've got that greater experience and understanding of the need for grief as a coping mechanism, to bring loved one's together over a shared loss or disappointment, or as a cathartic release.

Young kids won't get all the subtle nuance of the film, but they'll still enjoy it for the vibrant colors, the amazing visual craftsmanship of the world of Riley's mind and the fun characters inhabiting it (and brief visits to the minds of her parents and during the credits, other people and even dogs and cats in a great sequence). There's a great running gag about how an irritating commercial jingle becomes an earworm to everyone in the film, one that might actually end up becoming an earworm to viewer's of the film as well.

There's genuine heartfelt loss and sorrow in the film, dealt with in a mature way that's not typical for most children's films and which perfectly illustrates the Pixar philosophy of not pandering or talking down to children. Trek fans will be intimately familiar with the themes as they've been dealt with in Trek films before (TWoK and TFF), namely confronting and not cheating your way out of grief, and how you need your pain because it helps you to learn and is part of the wealth of experiences that define you as a person.

Joy in the film is unabashedly played up as the chief protagonist at first, but we find out (as does she) as the film goes along that her desire to suppress sadness, to both literally and metaphorically keep it confined in a circle that represents bottling up our feelings and putting on a happy face, is not a healthy or mature response, and can lead to acting out in dangerous ways (like running away), lashing out at people, or in loss of friendships and interests, which is depicted in a rather amazing yet terrifying way as the cities that represent the primary elements of Riley's personality begin crumbling away into the abyss of her subconscious.

Michael Giacchino's music alternates between the whimsical, poignant, and harrowing with the same deft precision he always employs, using his favorite instrument, the piano, to good effect.

The casting is perfection, especially among the emotions:

Joy: Amy Poehler from Parks & Rec
Sadness: Phyllis Smith from The Office
Disgust: Mindy Kaling from The Office and The Mindy Show
Fear: Bill Hader from Saturday Night Live
Anger: Lewis Black from The Daily Show

The parents are well played by Kyle McClachlan and Diane Lane, and there's an imaginary friend named Bing Bong, played by Richard Kind, who plays a large part in the middle of the film and gives us one of the film's more touching scenes.

If it's not already obvious, I can't recommend the film highly enough. It's among the better films of the almost always great Pixar pantheon, and it can be enjoyed by adults, young kids, and older kids alike on multiple levels. "A+".

One thing I liked was that Disgust and Anger, along with Sadness, aren't treated as "bad" emotions (even though Joy isn't initially clear on what Sadness actually does, and she doesn't quite seem to know either :lol:) even though one could get that impression from the trailers. I actually found it interesting how Joy seemed to be pretty good at having everyone be a team most of the time, if not always. :D
 
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