Re: If Star Trek Beyond Is The Last Film Should They Start NuTNG or Re
No, it wasn't. Oh, there was some classic GR spin that talked it up, but it was about as innovative as Bonanza.
Um...The Original Series had tv's first interracial kiss and a black woman on the helm of a military vessel. I think you underestimate how big of an impact this was.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_influence_of_Star_Trek#Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series
I don't even like TOS very much, it's corny and way out of date, but I can respect the impact it had culturally, and that it wasn't just an attempt to make stupid popcorn action, like the new films.
I wouldn't underestimate something based on the format it is presented in. Anime from the 1970's was more adult than most of the shows in the U.S. that were on at the time. "The Quest for Iscandar" was very violent and as scientifically accurate as anything Star Trek can boast of.
Well given that anime is seen as a purely children's medium in Japan I don't think that's accurate, at least given what Japanese people I've read who are confronted with adult Americans being into anime.
Regardless it's a lame medium that I avoid. If I'm selling it short, you can PM me or what not a list of anime you recommend, but from what I've seen, it's crap.
The funny thing is that "magic blood", i.e. stem cell therapies to repair illness (the little girl) or radiation damage (Kirk), is much closer to realization (for instance, see:
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-hsc012915.php for a recent study on the latter) than transporters or warp drive will probably ever be...
Stem cells repairing damage is not the same as magic blood bringing you back from the dead. If you think that's scientifically accurate, I have a Ray Kurzweil futurism package to sell you.
Well, ID did explain some relevant, and recent social and political events.
Such as? The few "political" themes it tackles it does as subtly and complex as a five year old, which are just shot out of the airlock half way through the film anyway.
I figured people on this forum would hate these films even more than I, because in reality I just think they're meh and emblematic of why I avoid Hollywood these days, but you guys go to great lengths to try to make them seem like intelligent films and that they're even smarter than ever, so yeah that's a surprise :P I don't think I've ever met someone in real life who saw these films and that they were intelligent. They're just silly popcorn action films, and in my opinion not even good action films so I don't even get that out of them. But each to their own.
It's not much of a basis for conversation, to assume that people with different opinions are stupid or crazy.
I don't, it's just people have endlessly told me "people like this! Critics like it!" Who cares? This is my opinion, though in these cases I've pointed out that the reception of these films is anything but universally positive. Everything I've said has been said in a million reviews already. It's just a personal reason why I don't like the films, oh well if that offends someone.
Yeah, that gave me a pause as well. I don't like Final Frontier or TMP either, but others are not crazy for liking them. And when people tend to explain why they like them, I can usually see their point even if I don't agree.
I don't know, liking the fifth movie might make you crazy...
Loved Benedict Cumberbatch as Khan. So, I have no complaints there.
Overacting?
Where? One few moments are there are in the finest tradition of
Trek.
https://youtu.be/gnZJjNjMg98?t=1m5s The whole film is full of total ham and overacting from the dude, I was literally laughing and even a bit cringing when I first saw it. Maybe it's a homage to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnSnfiUI54 :P The difference is this is a hammy and funny scene in an otherwise pretty serious film, and somehow even this corny bit elicits more emotion from me than anything Into Darkness. Man, films aren't what they used to be.
Studios can think of other things. They fear not making a profit, so they stick with what is been shown to be successful. Demonstrate to them something else that is successful and they'll do that.
But, TWOK keeps being used as the plumb line, so filmmakers will keep revisiting it until it is demonstrated that audiences will buy something else (Trek 09 succeed, in my opinion, though).
You're mostly correct, that what sells, sells. Nemesis was a total bomb though, so the first rip off didn't do so well. So they tried again and it succeeded, so yes, it makes money and thus they continuously rip off the format. No duh. This only adds credence to my point that they're just making flavorless gruel because it sells. If I want to watch Star Trek 2, I'll watch Star Trek 2. I don't need it with massive CG-I acid trips and confusing and badly written storylines. I don't want to watch a movie or play a game that's just trying to give me the same exact experience. I don't need them, I have the originals :P
And Robert Clary and Richard Dawson are apparently Americans. 
