So basically DS9 meets South Park? "Oh my Prophets! They killed Dax! You petaQs!"
Berman Was Inflexible?
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So basically DS9 meets South Park? "Oh my Prophets! They killed Dax! You petaQs!"
http://www.trektoday.com/content/2015/05/farrell-berman-was-inflexible/
http://www.showbizjunkies.com/tv/terry-farrell-interview/
At this point, should there be a "stickied" post on why Farrell left DS9?
I don't know...can you do a multiple choice poll on a sticky?
Thanks!
By the way, there have been other narratives posted in other threads by others about why she left, that differ from the one recounted here. That's one reason I thought it was important to get actual links. Also, the TrekToday article is about to fall off the bottom of the links to TrekToday articles on the side.
I won't get into the other narratives I've read on the board, because I don't have sources, and I didn't even post any of them. Others can, if they want.
Well, if it matters, I refer often to these two sources:
http://www.trekmate.org.uk/the-delta-quadrant-terry-farrell-interview/
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=terry+farrell+toronto
The first is an interview from the Delta Quadrant podcast. The second is a convention appearance from earlier this year.
Honestly, I don't feel that anything in these articles exonerates Farrell. Berman is a jerk, and he was likely a jerk in this situation. OTOH, asking to become a recurring character would have meant taking her name out of the opening credits at a time when her star was on the rise. Moreover, none of the work other actors did outside DS9, Meaney in particular, competed with their affiliation with Trek--certainly not in the way Farrell being on a competing TV series would have.
WHAT?!? Now you tell me. I *just* finished sewing a Berman face on this punching bag - now what am I supposed to do with it...
Sew Ron Moore's face over it and have at it.
So VERY many people to punish for bringing me entertainment. How dare they. What's that JJ Abrams guy been up to lately?
Getting punched in the face.
As far as Farrell and Berman go, they had competing views of what needed to be done. She had a career to think about and he had a show to make. I don't see either as being "wrong".
It's genuinely amusing how so many Trek fans thought Abrams turned NuTrek '09 into something that too closely resembled the "mindless whiz-bang action-fest" Star Wars and that he would be better off be involved with that franchise instead. And now that he is, more people are busting a nut over that one too! Queue fan rage over the tri-point lightsaber and the >>>GASP!!!<<< black Stormtrooper! Just can't win for losin'!
Shut up and eat your popcorn!
That would be reasonable, but Farrell has this continually evolving story that shifts blame around and that, IMO, falls apart under scrutiny.
That would be reasonable, but Farrell has this continually evolving story that shifts blame around and that, IMO, falls apart under scrutiny.
Who, exactly, is describing Farrell as "uppity?" As far as I can tell, Rick Berman has made no comment on her career decisions.
Well, to be fair, Berman firing her for wanting only a part-time gig on DS9 was kind-of a comment on her career decisions, albeit in a rather highschool-ish passive-aggressive way.
"Uppity" may be a bit harsh of a word to use in the case, but there does appear to be a precedent of backlash against women who wish to make such career choices, either by sharing the workload with other shows or asking for greater financial compensation. Claudia Christian was an example already mentioned earlier, as well as Kirstie Alley. Jennifer Lien, IIRC, was just outright screwed out of a job to bring in Seven of Nine. Can't remember the precise conditions under which Gates McFadden and Denise Crosby were cut, but the bridges weren't as obviously vaporized so much as to not allow them to return. I'm sure it's happened to men as well, just probably not quite as frequently or as widely publicized. Hollywood is a tough industry to be in no matter how you slice it. Sometimes you win big during negotiation, sometimes you lose big. It's a gamble.
"Uppity" may be a bit harsh of a word to use in the case, but there does appear to be a precedent of backlash against women who wish to make such career choices, either by sharing the workload with other shows or asking for greater financial compensation. Claudia Christian was an example already mentioned earlier, as well as Kirstie Alley. Jennifer Lien, IIRC, was just outright screwed out of a job to bring in Seven of Nine. Can't remember the precise conditions under which Gates McFadden and Denise Crosby were cut, but the bridges weren't as obviously vaporized so much as to not allow them to return. I'm sure it's happened to men as well, just probably not quite as frequently or as widely publicized. Hollywood is a tough industry to be in no matter how you slice it. Sometimes you win big during negotiation, sometimes you lose big. It's a gamble.
As people here have reminded me whenever I make this mistake, she was not fired: her contract was not renewed.
Looking at it from Berman's perspective probably would not have been reassuring. One of his actors wanted to be removed from the opening credits in order to work on another show. It happened after the said actor's visibility was rising due to a TV Guide cover; Berman himself may have been instrumental arranging the cover, and maybe the studio paid for it.
Said actor would work on a competing TV program where their name would be on the marquis. When said actor appeared in magazines or on talk shows, they would be introduced not as so-and-so from DS9, but from another program. The bulk of interviews would focus on the new program, not DS9.
And if the series wanted to do an episode, they would have to fit it into the said actor's busy schedule with the new series as best as possible.
Berman, concerned with promoting the brand and easing production, could only see this situation negatively.
That's exactly who Berman is. I expect nothing better.
I don't see it as passive-aggressive at all. Farrell wanted to work part time, Berman didn't see her role as being a part time role and they parted ways.
We can bash berman all day for being a hack creative wise.
However as far as being an effective businessman, there doesn't seem to be much of an issue.
I"ll never get why people make a big deal of the dax thinger.
It was something that always made perfect sense to me.
Going into the 7th season with an ongoing war, someone had to die. Worf and her being married couldn't end happily it'd just be two wierd. I give props to the writers to ending all three relationships by the end.
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