Pegg updates on script

[eyeresist]

Trivia: I recently watched "Event Horizon," essentially a 1997 B-movie sci-fi flick with some A-list cast members such as pre-Matrix Laurence Fishburne and Sam Neil. I knew the movie was in trouble the moment they started to remove their helmets on the derelict ship (sound familiar?) without a proper check.

That was handwaved earlier in the script, when they were scanning the ship:
"Pressure?"
"The hull's intact, but there's no gravity, and thermal units are off-line."

Far bigger problems are people smoking in space, and Sam Neill explaining wormhole theory to ASTRONAUTS as though they are pre-schoolers.
I've long fantasised about making a "corrected" edit of Event Horizon which would minimise these problems and make more sense of the ending.
It's a terrific-looking film with some unique ideas, even if those ideas are not exactly scientific.
Definitely better than Prometheus.

 

[fireproof78]

Basically, what I'm saying is the new writers probably shouldn't worry about making a 'type' of movie or including 'scifi concepts'. They should just do a story they think is good, and will work in the Trek verse.

IMO, of course.

That sounds like a direct contradiction.

The whole point is that movies have to take a tone different from television. You have to work with certain budgets, you have to target an audience and you have go with a tone that people have some experience in seeing and making.

The whole point is Prometheus and Interstellar fill a space that is much more suitable for trek, than an avengers knock off.

Star Trek can be just as much about adventure as it is exploration. That's part of the Western undertones that created the backbone of TOS.

I am hoping that the tone of the next film will follow through on that more Western, frontier and unknown, type of attitude.

 

[JWPlatt]

Star Trek Into Blazing Saddles. That attitude would be fun. Star Trek V missed its big chance for a fart scene around the campfire.

 

[eyeresist]

Beans and bourbon destroyed Praxis!

 

[martok2112]

Beans and bourbon destroyed Praxis!

What is "pull my finger" in thl'ngan?

 

[eyeresist]

What a way to go.

 

[Kruezerman]

Star Trek Can Into Space?

 

[mos6507]

Star Trek Into Blazing Saddles. That attitude would be fun. Star Trek V missed its big chance for a fart scene around the campfire.

Actually, it's a reasonable question to ask how much humor Pegg will insert into the script, since he's known for humor.

nuTrek would probably have hit me better if it went full-bore into humor instead of taking itself somewhat seriously overall, but of course, then it risks transforming into Galaxy Quest.

 

[Ryan8bit]

I like Pegg's sense of humor though, so he can pepper in quite a bit and I'd be OK with that. It's not going to be terrible, awkwardly placed jokes like in Insurrection.

 

[VOODOOXI]

How is this movie gonna hit a 2016 release date when it hasn't started shooting yet? I see Suicide Squad getting tons of leaks and it comes out later.

I don't know, but it's kind of depressing that the 50th Anniversary is going to be a rush job that will attempt to turn Star Trek into Guardians of the Galaxy...Should have stuck with Orci's script.

 

[Jedi_Master]

How is this movie gonna hit a 2016 release date when it hasn't started shooting yet? I see Suicide Squad getting tons of leaks and it comes out later.

I don't know, but it's kind of depressing that the 50th Anniversary is going to be a rush job that will attempt to turn Star Trek into Guardians of the Galaxy...Should have stuck with Orci's script.

Has anyone read that script and thus are able to comment as to why it would be better to use it as a basis for the next Trek film?

 

[M'Sharak]

How is this movie gonna hit a 2016 release date when it hasn't started shooting yet? I see Suicide Squad getting tons of leaks and it comes out later.

I don't know, but it's kind of depressing that the 50th Anniversary is going to be a rush job that will attempt to turn Star Trek into Guardians of the Galaxy...Should have stuck with Orci's script.

Has anyone read that script and thus are able to comment as to why it would be better to use it as a basis for the next Trek film?

Since we know next to nothing about Orci's script other than that TPTB at Paramount deemed it "too Star Trek-y" and directed Pegg to write something "not as Star Trek-y" without using Orci's script as a guide, I'm not sure a claim that sticking with the Orci script would be preferable really has much merit.

I'm also of the opinion that the moviemakers should just focus on making the movie, and not saddle it with any extra anniversary baggage. The 50th-anniversary tribute should be entirely separate (and preferably presented on television, featuring plenty of appearances by actors, crew, and video clips from previous Treks.)

 

[F. King Daniel]

I love how the Internet has gone from "Trek is doomed under Orci" to "they should have stuck with Orci"

 

[Franklin]

I'm also of the opinion that the moviemakers should just focus on making the movie, and not saddle it with any extra anniversary baggage. The 50th-anniversary tribute should be entirely separate (and preferably presented on television, featuring plenty of appearances by actors, crew, and video clips from previous Treks.)

I agree entirely. The celebration of the anniversary is secondary to the content of the movie. In my opinion, the best celebration of fifty years of TOS the movie could do would be to present something almost completely new and fresh to Trek while still staying strictly true to the values of the characters that defined TOS since 1966. If there's not one Easter egg in the movie, that's fine with me. Probably no one wants a movie that's essentially a clip show.

For what it's worth, the movie may turn out to be the only thing acknowledging the anniversary of TOS that doesn't carry the baggage of the myths, exaggerations, and downright inaccuracies about the show that will be almost inevitably "celebrated" on any of the TV tributes we'll see. In other words, I hope the self-importance and over-intellectualized and analyzed philosophic navel contemplating is saved for TV.

 

[Jedi_Master]

The 50th-anniversary tribute should be entirely separate (and preferably presented on television, featuring plenty of appearances by actors, crew, and video clips from previous Treks.)

Considering that the heart of Star Trek is the various TV series, I agree.

In other words, I hope the self-importance and over-intellectualized and analyzed philosophic navel contemplating is saved for TV.

You must have read the script for the anniversary special.

 

[JWPlatt]

...TPTB at Paramount deemed it "too Star Trek-y" and directed Pegg to write something "not as Star Trek-y"

Pegg disclaimed the "Trek-y" comment in a more recent interview.

 

[Franklin]

The 50th-anniversary tribute should be entirely separate (and preferably presented on television, featuring plenty of appearances by actors, crew, and video clips from previous Treks.)

Considering that the heart of Star Trek is the various TV series, I agree.

In other words, I hope the self-importance and over-intellectualized and analyzed philosophic navel contemplating is saved for TV.

You must have read the script for the anniversary special.

Off topic, it's likely to get sappy, but if they mention TOS inspiring the invention of the cell phone, I'm going all Elvis on my TV.

 

[fireproof78]

I don't know, but it's kind of depressing that the 50th Anniversary is going to be a rush job that will attempt to turn Star Trek into Guardians of the Galaxy...Should have stuck with Orci's script.

Has anyone read that script and thus are able to comment as to why it would be better to use it as a basis for the next Trek film?

Since we know next to nothing about Orci's script other than that TPTB at Paramount deemed it "too Star Trek-y" and directed Pegg to write something "not as Star Trek-y" without using Orci's script as a guide, I'm not sure a claim that sticking with the Orci script would be preferable really has much merit.

I'm also of the opinion that the moviemakers should just focus on making the movie, and not saddle it with any extra anniversary baggage. The 50th-anniversary tribute should be entirely separate (and preferably presented on television, featuring plenty of appearances by actors, crew, and video clips from previous Treks.)

I agree with this statement. Star Trek originated on TV and it would be fitting for it to be presented on that format.

This next film has been criticized enough for holding on to past Trek, and, as stated above, putting the anniversary burden basically shoe-horns the story in to pure Star Trek fan service for the sake of the anniversary.

I love how the Internet has gone from "Trek is doomed under Orci" to "they should have stuck with Orci"

The Internet: if you don't become a villain, you live long enough to see yourself become a hero...or something like that

 

[martok2112]

"No more terrible disaster could befall your people than for them to fall into the hands of a Hero." -Pardot Kynes from Frank Herbert's novel of DUNE.

"I'm holding out for a hero." -Bonnie Tyler via infamous cheese writer, Jim Steinman.

"We don't need another hero!" -Tina Turner Beyond Thunderdome.

(and....as an aside)
"We don' need no steenkin' bodges!" Treasure of the Sierra Madre.

 

[M'Sharak]

...TPTB at Paramount deemed it "too Star Trek-y" and directed Pegg to write something "not as Star Trek-y"

Pegg disclaimed the "Trek-y" comment in a more recent interview.

Are you referring to his 19 May blog entry, or to another piece? If the latter, perhaps you could dig up a link? If the former, I got the impression that the "dumbing down" remark from the Guardian interview was more what he was interested in clearing up.