Jonathan Frakes: "Star Trek won't be coming back to TV."

[BillJ]

Nowhere in my post did I say that they would make a series try again bub and learn to read.

Might want to calm down. These are discussions about TV shows.

 

[thepigeon]

Nowhere in my post did I say that they would make a series try again bub and learn to read.

Might want to calm down. These are discussions about TV shows.

I am calmer than you are son.

 

[Amaris]

You are the only thinking there will be a show on yar not me since you keep brining it up.

How soon you forget your own post:

I can only think of two characters that would be great for a netflix series and that is commander Riker or Tasha Yar.

And seeing how you can't grasp the conversation at hand it is surprising you are not banned yet.

I can grasp it just fine since all of my posts were in response to your original post I requoted above and that you seemed to have forgotten writing. And I'd watch the "banning" talk if I were you, since that's what get's people banned, not normal conversation like what I'm having.

Anyway, I'm kinda done talking about this.

Plus, it's just a terrible, terrible idea. While I would give Frakes a shot out of sheer nostalgia and genuine like for the man, there's no way it would really get anywhere. As for Denise Crosby, no, just no. As I said in another post, she was wooden, just a mediocre-at-best actress, and I say that as someone who liked Yar.

Hell, I still cringe during the TNG episodes with Sela. So the idea of her carrying a show of her own is just fannish in the most reaching sense. It would be very unlikely as to ever gain any kind of popularity, and would assure the death of any remaining chance at Star Trek getting a series for years.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

Knowing the Trek fandom, I imagine we would have lots of people that would hate it - we're kind of like that. The people clamoring for a series (especially the ones who don't like that latest films) would probably get a bit of a shock if a series ever materialized. It's would be just as likely to not be a certain fans 'proper' Trek, as the next film potentially might be.

I may be wrong here, but I was under the impression that Paramount didn't actually own the rights to the Star Trek films - CBS still owns the brand, and have just licenced it out.

Again,I may be wrong.

You are correct.

On both points. Even if a new show were stated to explicitly take place in the Prime universe, I think there will be unhappy fans pointing out continuity issues, stating it is not a proper continuation, etc. - shoot it already happened with Enterprise, and that was with the same production crew. An all new production crew has no chance to make such fans happy - might as well just start with a clean slate.

This is why I wish that said 'fans' would just stick to the fan productions, since to them those are what they consider the 'real' Star Trek (I also with that they would not blast the Abrams movies while praising said fan productions, but that's just me.)

 

[fireproof78]

Sci-fi on a ship or space station needs a lot of standing sets (bridge, engineering, hallways, and such). The easy way to do that now would be to purchase the stages/studio were some of the exensive fan production sets are already or under construction presently. That would be expensive, but the work would be done for the most part. They would be stuck with a particular style, which might go against corperate logic, but its a set. They can repaint it and move things around until they like it.
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What about props? I recall a story about a fan who made a mock up of the TOS shuttlecraft.

The problem with props is two-fold. First, is that much of the tech that Trek came up with in the 60s has been surpassed by the technology level present today. So, the tech has to be recognizable in its function (simple in nuBSG, with the emphasis on lower tech to indicate age of the ship, and countering Cylon tech, etc).

With Trek, where tech is supposed to be newer, and generally very helpful, with the occasional glitch. So, figuring out out to make tech believable, in line with what an audience knows about technology is a difficult line to walk.

Beyond that, for sets, that's part of the initial cost. I mean, it really should have its own distinctive look (hence the look of the E-D, Voyager, and the like). So, while I can see cost cutting by having currently existing sets, it actually can be a bit hampering to have to redo the sets and confine yourself that way. I mean, you can see some of the Next Generation sets in the TOS films, and they compensate through darker lighting and elaborate set decoration.

Lots of hurdles that I think would be better accomplished through defining the time period and technological expectation.

 

[T'Girl]

As for Denise Crosby, no

I was under the impression that we were discussing the continuation of the character of Tasha Yar, and not having a 57 year old actress attempt to play a mid-twenties woman. The role would definitely have to be recast with a appropriate aged actress.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

^Even if an age-appropriate actress was cast to play Tasha, the same thing would still apply-why should a movie (that would most likely cost millions of dollars) be made about this minor character? And for what?

 

[Ithekro]

Movie? No.

Random TV show? They put worse on TV now all the time. There are hundreds of channels after all with hours of commercials to put a show between.

 

[Amaris]

Movie? No.

Random TV show? They put worse on TV now all the time. There are hundreds of channels after all with hours of commercials to put a show between.

That's not exactly a ringing endorsement for dropping money on it, though. Could you see that pitch?

"Look, guys, crap worse than this gets made, why not toss us some cash and just let us do it?"

 

[T'Girl]

^Even if an age-appropriate actress was cast to play Tasha, the same thing would still apply-why should a movie (that would most likely cost millions of dollars) be made about this minor character?

TV/cable show, not a movie.

There have often been threads here at TrekBBS about having a "below decks" centered show, about a away party investigation team. Lead by a mid-level officer and largely composed of junior personnel. Senior command officers would be rarely seen reoccurring characters. A Tasha Yar reappearance could be within such a format.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

^Even if it's a TV show, it would still be the same thing (as everybody else has tried to convey to you)-why would CBS Studios want to blow millions on a TV show about some minor characters on Star Trek who weren't on the bridge and worked 'below decks'? They'd want to focus on Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scott,Sulu, Chekov, Uhura, and Marcus (or the 24 century cast of characters), not minor nobodies (especially somebody as one-note as Tasha Yar.) You're allowing your love of Star Trek to override common business sense about making a TV show.

 

[yenny]

If you have a Linkedin pay account? It won't hurt to ask.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/nina-tassler/a/710/754

 

[Nerys Myk]

If you have a Linkedin pay account? It won't hurt to ask.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/nina-tassler/a/710/754

Is LinkedIn really the place to ask fanboy questions? And the assistant who set up that account should be fired!

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Plus, it's just a terrible, terrible idea. While I would give Frakes a shot out of sheer nostalgia and genuine like for the man, there's no way it would really get anywhere. As for Denise Crosby, no, just no. As I said in another post, she was wooden, just a mediocre-at-best actress, and I say that as someone who liked Yar.

Wooden or not, Yar was a less than minor character as originally presented, and had no worthy effect beyond her death. To be clear, i'm talking about Yar alone, not the slapped-together Sela plots in the years that followed.

This is not like TV of the past where breakout characters such as Gomer Pyle (from The Andy Griffith Show), Mork (from Happy Days) or Benson (from Soap) so captured the audience's imagination that spin-offs were unavoidable--and succeeded. There's no such call or need for Yar...anything.

Yar was not even developed well, to the point that other ST characters not even part of the main cast--like TOS' 2-time Kevin Reily--seemed like a long-lived novel series in comparison.

 

[Amaris]

Plus, it's just a terrible, terrible idea. While I would give Frakes a shot out of sheer nostalgia and genuine like for the man, there's no way it would really get anywhere. As for Denise Crosby, no, just no. As I said in another post, she was wooden, just a mediocre-at-best actress, and I say that as someone who liked Yar.

Wooden or not, Yar was a less than minor character as originally presented, and had no worthy effect beyond her death. To be clear, i'm talking about Yar alone, not the slapped-together Sela plots in the years that followed.

This is not like TV of the past where breakout characters such as Gomer Pyle (from The Andy Griffith Show), Mork (from Happy Days) or Benson (from Soap) so captured the audience's imagination that spin-offs were unavoidable--and succeeded. There's no such call or need for Yar...anything.

Yar was not even developed well, to the point that other ST characters not even part of the main cast--like TOS' 2-time Kevin Reily--seemed like a long-lived novel series in comparison.

That's a fair point as well.

 

[Trekkin]

I think that's bothering me as well.

Even the fans that hated the idea of going back to the TOS crew, would probably see it once to see how it turned out.

But would even a lot Trekkies find a series about Tasha Yar appealing? Even if they managed to make it on the cheap so that it could survive without the general audience tuning in every week, isn't it entirely possible that it still wouldn't get enough viewers? Not so much 'I don't want to check out an unknown character,' but 'I do know this character, and I don't find her interesting.'

 

[Greg Cox]

I have to ask: why Tasha Yar of all characters? With all due respect to Tasha, she's hardly an iconic figure. "Captain Sulu" or "Captain Worf" might have some name-recognition value, but Tasha is basically a footnote in Trek history.

You might as well do "Doctor Pulaski, Starfleet M.D." or "Kevin Riley: Take Me Home Again, Kathleen."

 

[Mudd]

The quality of work on some fan sets is remarkable, but none of it is on the level of the work the professionals on Trek have done and are doing now.

 

[urbandefault]

I have to ask: why Tasha Yar of all characters? With all due respect to Tasha, she's hardly an iconic figure. "Captain Sulu" or "Captain Worf" might have some name-recognition value, but Tasha is basically a footnote in Trek history.

You might as well do "Doctor Pulaski, Starfleet M.D." or "Kevin Riley: Take Me Home Again, Kathleen."

Yes, thank you.

The quality of work on some fan sets is remarkable, but none of it is on the level of the work the professionals on Trek have done and are doing now.

Absolutely right.

 

[Amaris]

I have to ask: why Tasha Yar of all characters? With all due respect to Tasha, she's hardly an iconic figure. "Captain Sulu" or "Captain Worf" might have some name-recognition value, but Tasha is basically a footnote in Trek history.

You might as well do "Doctor Pulaski, Starfleet M.D." or "Kevin Riley: Take Me Home Again, Kathleen."

I would watch the hell out of something like "Kate Pulaski, Starfleet M.D.", but I'd wager I would be in the minority on that one.