The Flash - Season 1

[Dick Whitman]

I remember that! I never saw the whole episode until the Sci Fi Channel aired the show sometime in the mid to late 90s. But even then they probably cut it short for more commercials.

That episode was the most glaring example but there were other times it was interrupted to cover the first Gulf War.

 

[Dick Whitman]

I know that in the comics Barry designed the means of shrinking his costume himself. It would be a nice touch for Ray Palmer to help him with that. Especially if it leads to the Atom having his true powers.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I thought it was that the suit was made from a super thin material and was folded and compressed.

Today we have three-men-tents that can be stored inside a matchbox.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I thought it was that the suit was made from a super thin material and was folded and compressed.

Today we have three-men-tents that can be stored inside a matchbox.

Yeah, more of a compression thing than shrinking thing.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Now, if you want to talk about Aquaman's super harpoon from his stumpy days, where that guy used (Atlantean) size-changing tech to bring the tools (A Swiss army knife of medieval weapons and basic tools and a flame thrower.) he wanted to the fore, and reduce other unneeded tools to a microscopic standby state, until needed.

Hey?

Does that mean that the Atlantean's invented size changing possibly thousands of years before the surface dwellers, and still couldn't find any industrial or military applications for the technology?

Unless there was a vicious arms race between a few of the many underwater nations, followed by a necessary disarmament agreement before everyone died?

Oh.

I heard this some where...

"This symbol on my belt isn't the letter "A". It's a symbol. The Atlantean symbol for "Asshole"."

 

[Nerys Myk]

Now, if you want to talk about Aquaman's super harpoon from his stumpy days, that that guy used (Atlantean) size-changing tech to bring the tools he wanted to the fore, and reduce other unneeded tools to a microscopic standby state, until needed.

Hey?

Does that mean that the Atlantean's invented size changing possibly thousands of years before the surface dwellers, and still couldn't find any industrial or military applications for the technology?

Unless there was a vicious arms race between a few of the many underwater nations, followed by a necessary disarmament agreement before everyone died?

Oh.

I heard this some where...

"This symbol on my belt isn't the letter "A". It's a symbol. The Atlantean symbol for "Asshole"."

Well in that continuity, Darrel Dane was shrinking long before Ray Palmer. And of course Brainiac was shrinking whole cities.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I'd try to arguing that what happens to Doll Man is tissue compression (rather than an atomic change to his atoms), you know, except that his clothes shrink along with him as he goes. Darrel didn't use Dwarfstar Matter? His Wiki doesn't mention it. If there's two different methods of size changing, then there's probably a lot more other ways to reduce and increase mass too.

First on Earth is good enough, first in the universe is going back 15 billion years and accounting for the scientific goings on of at least 40 trillion habital planets, before you might have to sit down and take a breath.

 

[shivkala]

Barry Allen's ring costume, explained.

 

[hux]

I think I'm a couple of episodes behind everyone else so need some help here

Why would Everyman agree to pretend to be Wells (for his freedom? Huh? He could have just walked out the building) and didn't he come across as knowing far more than was really necessary to know

Wells: Ok, so when they ask about killing Nora, you say.....It was never my intention to kill Nora....from my perspective, she was already dead...it just happened sooner than it was supposed to
Everyman: Um, ok got it
Wells: Then you swagger about....oh and remember to keep telling Cisco that he's smart....just keep saying...you're really smart Cisco
Everyman: Dude, this is all quite specific stuff

Additionally, after finding out that Wells knew what they were up to all along and had been watching them, why didn't Barry decide to go back in time again (regain some advantage). It involves running really fast, right?

 

[Scout101]

Same reason they never reuse a piece of tech or plot device from any trek episode: too powerful, too easy. Having Barry time travel every time he doesn't like something would be the logical outcome, but kill the series. So you can't just have him do the thing that makes sense, that he knows how to do...

 

[Guy Gardener]

There's probably more to it than just running.

What happened with Everyman was stupid.

OH!

Oh!

Oh!

Wells "I'm leaving, I'm going home. If you want my life, you can have it. You just have to outsmart my friends who think that I am an evil psychopath, other than that, you're golden."

If Eobard handed over enough personal information and some really enormous bank accounts numbers and pass codes, so that Everyman could make it long term as Wells, well that would be enough quid pro quo for Everyman to confront Team Flash as Wells.

Everyman just misjudged the situation.

Of course, this is only me noprizing bad writing, so fuck it.

 

[Christopher]

Additionally, after finding out that Wells knew what they were up to all along and had been watching them, why didn't Barry decide to go back in time again (regain some advantage). It involves running really fast, right?

Same reason they never reuse a piece of tech or plot device from any trek episode: too powerful, too easy. Having Barry time travel every time he doesn't like something would be the logical outcome, but kill the series. So you can't just have him do the thing that makes sense, that he knows how to do...

I wouldn't say he knows how to do it. Sure, he knew it happened when he pushed himself to the limit of his speed, but he doesn't know just how it happened, or what other factors might be involved. I think we did see him on the treadmill, trying to recreate the effect and failing. So it's not something he can do whenever he wants to. He knows he can do it, but he's only been able to do it by accident.

Besides, when he did try to make things better by altering the past, it created a whole new set of problems. So the show took care to establish that it's not a magic cure-all. It's a power that can be dangerous to use, even if Barry could figure out how to do it on purpose.

Not to mention -- Wells/Eobard is a much more experienced time traveler. If Barry tried to use time travel to fight him, he'd be battling on the enemy's turf. He'd be totally outmatched in a time-travel contest.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Oh come on. Wells has access to a mind controlling gorilla. Who says, Everyman agreed to anything?

 

[hux]

Same reason they never reuse a piece of tech or plot device from any trek episode: too powerful, too easy. Having Barry time travel every time he doesn't like something would be the logical outcome, but kill the series. So you can't just have him do the thing that makes sense, that he knows how to do...

He doesn't have to succeed going back in time but at least give it a try? I'm thinking about the advantage of Barry et al knowing what Wells knows

Is it possible that Wells fixes his own problems this way? (Hence his comment about "always being one step ahead")

Oh come on. Wells has access to a mind controlling gorilla. Who says, Everyman agreed to anything?

Well.......Wells did

"Didn't take much convincing, just the simple promise of his freedom"

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Even that doesn't preclude a telepathic link to feed him the right answers, so it really is not a major problem for me. Even if they don't spell it out exactly how he has done this.

 

[hux]

Even that doesn't preclude a telepathic link to feed him the right answers, so it really is not a major problem for me. Even if they don't spell it out exactly how he has done this.

It also doesn't preclude a small Latvian postman called Boris controlling Everyman's legs with a talking pie.......but just because it doesn't, that shouldn't mean it should be your first port of call regarding an explanation

Why promise something to someone you don't need to promise something to? I think Wells is probably sincere and Everyman agreed to play along (it's just not brilliantly done is all)

 

[Icemizer]

So a test pilot disappeared from Ferris air hmmmmmm.
I did not think we would get the fight this week or that it would be so short. Nice help from Palmer with his amazing do anything nanites.
I liked Snart in this and look forward to his being a part of Legends. So the rogues grow larger which is nice.
Poor Iris.
Well at least Ollie knows how long he lives now.

 

[sojourner]

Loved the "splash page" pauses in the action. Very comic book.

 

[Gryffindorian]

Although Snart ended up doublecrossing Barry, at least the metavillains were still saved by Barry from being incinerated by the particle accelerator. And it's unlikely those who got away will cause any trouble in Central City soon, as Snart has a vested interest in the city.

Why didn't Cisco and Caitlyn, with all their technology and genius-level intellect, come up with those nanites that slowed down Professor Zoom? No matter, at least Eobard Thawne has been dealt with.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Although Snart ended up doublecrossing Barry, at least the metavillains were still saved by Barry from being incinerated by the particle accelerator. And it's unlikely those who got away will cause any trouble in Central City soon, as Snart has a vested interest in the city.

Why didn't Cisco and Caitlyn, with all their technology and genius-level intellect, come up with those nanites that slowed down Professor Zoom? No matter, at least Eobard Thawne has been dealt with.

Well, one of them.

Still gotta deal with Young Eobard.