Has this ever happened in a TV show or movie...

[gblews]

another "22 Jump Street" sequel will feature Jonah Hill and Channing Tatum returning as Schmidt and Jenko with a twist: A "Men in Black" crossover that would act as a sort-of sequel to the Will Smith-Tommy Lee Jones comedies.

http://www.syracuse.com/entertainme...simone_trailer.html#incart_more_entertainment

If this were to turn out to be an "MIB movie", then this may be EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Arthur Lowe played Leonard Swindley in the early years of Coronation Street.

He then went on to play the same character in a sit-com called Pardon the Expression.

Is that the sort of thing?

If the "Leonard Swindley" character was the lead (or one of the leads) and "Coronation Street was an already existing franchise, then most probably, yes.

Simply put... by taking 2 main leads from one television show, inserting them into a 2nd and unrelated television show as lead characters isn't possible.

Not impossible, just improbable.

 

[Showdown]

How about voice actors?
Kevin Conroy (Batman), Mark Hamill (Joker), and Tim Daly (Superman) voiced their characters in different alternate universes. Kevin and Mark were in TAS and Arkham games. Kevin and Tim played World's Finest in the series and Public Enemies DVD movie.

 

[Shawnster]

So, then, it IS possible to have the lead from one series show up as the lead on a totally unrelated series. http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=271249

 

[Aragorn]

Civil Wars lasted two seasons on ABC, then after it was canceled two of the actors were moved to L.A. Law on NBC as their same characters.

 

[Andrew_Kearley]

OK, this should qualify.

Jill Gascoigne played Detective Inspector Maggie Forbes in five series of "The Gentle Touch", a serious police procedural made by LWT.

She then went on to play the same character in three series of "CATS Eyes", which was a spy action adventure series made by TVS.

It's not a spin-off in the conventional sense, as Gascoigne was playing the lead character in both series. Different style of show, different production company.

Actually no, forget that. I didn't grasp the stipulation about the second show already existing.

 

[Scout101]

And had to be more than one character too...

 

[Andrew_Kearley]

yeah. I can think of plenty of shows that ended, then the same actors/characters started to appear in a brand new show - not a spin-off per se, just a new series with the same people. But not going into an already existing show. I think my example of Zoe Lucker going from Footballers Wives to Bad Girls is the closest, although that's only the one character.

 

[the G-man]

Civil Wars lasted two seasons on ABC, then after it was canceled two of the actors were moved to L.A. Law on NBC as their same characters.

They weren't the main characters on either show, however.

 

[The Old Mixer]

And had to be more than one character too...

And had to first air on the seventh Tuesday following a solar eclipse.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

We're not including spinoffs? Isn't taking a main character from one show and making them the main character of another show the definition of a spinoff?

Isn't that like saying, give me an example of an ocean, but exclude any large bodies of water?

Most of the time they want to create a new show around one character instead of preserving existing relationships from a previous show.

 

[Scout101]

But that was in the rules too! Can't take two characters from a show and start another show, you have to move them to another already-established show, and have these two somehow displace the actual actors as the new main characters. I guess...

 

[gblews]

And had to be more than one character too...

And had to first air on the seventh Tuesday following a solar eclipse.

...during leap year.

We're not including spinoffs? Isn't taking a main character from one show and making them the main character of another show the definition of a spinoff?

As I have written before, If you move Mulder and Scully to MIB, you can say that the characters have been "spunoff" into another show, but that does not make MIB a spinoff of the X-Files.

But that was in the rules too! Can't take two characters from a show and start another show, you have to move them to another already-established show, and have these two somehow displace the actual actors as the new main characters. I guess...

I never said anything about "displace" the prior characters. How it might happen is not part of the hypothesis.

 

[tharpdevenport]

That brings up an interesting point: can two lead characters move to another show and it not be considered a spin off if it was a deliberate spin-off? After all, if said characters can exist in the same universe as the characters on anotehr show, this implies it is the same universe, which is what a spin-off really is. Think "Angel": it occurs in the same universe as "Buffy the Vamprie Slayer" but takes place elsewhere and brought, over time at least two leads and two more secondary leads into the mix; same unvierse but doing other things.


Therefore wouldn't the deliniation be vague at best and only necessary for a series directly intended as a spin-off?

 

[Scout101]

^ How would you insert two new characters into an existing show, have them be the new MAIN characters, and NOT displace the prior characters? The show existed, it HAD main characters...

 

[gblews]

That brings up an interesting point: can two lead characters move to another show and it not be considered a spin off if it was a deliberate spin-off? After all, if said characters can exist in the same universe as the characters on anotehr show, this implies it is the same universe, which is what a spin-off really is. Think "Angel": it occurs in the same universe as "Buffy the Vamprie Slayer" but takes place elsewhere and brought, over time at least two leads and two more secondary leads into the mix; same unvierse but doing other things.

Well, I think you're mixing up the terms, "universe" with "franchise". And although initially, I mentioned used "universe", I really meant "franchise'. The word, "universe" was confusing, so think "franchise, instead. Angel is a spinoff of Buffy and is the same "franchise" as Buffy.

In my hypothetical involving Mulder and Skully and MIB, MIB is a different "franchise" from the X-Files. One could say they take place in the same general "universe", Earth in the 90's, but they are completely different franchises and MIB would not be an X-Files spinoff. In MIB, Skully would no longer be a skeptic about alien life because she works for MIB, and Mulder would have gotten over his conspiracy obsession because he would have all of the answers re: aliens, he had questions about.

Therefore wouldn't the deliniation be vague at best and only necessary for a series directly intended as a spin-off?

I don't know what you mean here.

^ How would you insert two new characters into an existing show, have them be the new MAIN characters, and NOT displace the prior characters? The show existed, it HAD main characters...

You're right. I actually misunderstood what you wrote.

 

[publiusr]

In terms of a blast from the past--in the Beverly Hillbillies remake, we saw Buddy Ebsen as Barnaby Jones.

That's quite a rest for a character.

 

[inflatabledalek]

How about Sean Connery in Never Say Never Again? As a remake of Thunderball it's not in the same fictional Universe as his previous Bond films and he's still playing the same character.

Oddly it does have some half hearted attempts to not contradict the official films (M and Q are emphatically new characters with the former being a replacement at the same time the other films needed a new M), but even if For Your Eyes Only hadn't killed of Blofeld as a two fingered salute things like Felix now being black would stop them being part of the same continuity even beyond the rehashed plot (after all, plot rehashing is a cheerful thing in Bond).

Come to that: Dench's M survived the reboot and has therefore been the character in two different continuities as well.

 

[tomswift2002]

Did she win, or did Disney settle out of court?

I believe she won. Obviously there has been some use of the character since, do Disney has managed to work out the rights issues surrounding Louise Prima's vocal work on "The Jungle Book", but Louie only made a brief cameo as a shadow puppet in "The Jungle Book 2", and a few of his other appearances have had the character on screen in a non-speaking role.

 

[gblews]

How about Sean Connery in Never Say Never Again? As a remake of Thunderball it's not in the same fictional Universe as his previous Bond films and he's still playing the same character.

Same franchise -- essentially, "Never" could be called a reboot of "Thunderball".

 

[inflatabledalek]

How about Sean Connery in Never Say Never Again? As a remake of Thunderball it's not in the same fictional Universe as his previous Bond films and he's still playing the same character.

Same franchise -- essentially, "Never" could be called a reboot of "Thunderball".

Not the same franchise as far as EON are concerned, they'd cry to hear you say that. It's more like Sherlock and Elementary, both based on the character of Holmes and both take elements from the same books, but they're two separate "Franchises". just in this case, McClory got the same actor to play Bond.