Pegg updates on script
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He did say so, here and here, for example:
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/What-Simon-Pegg-Took-From-Roberto-Orci-Star-Trek-3-Script-70547.html
http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/simo...trek-3-mission-impossible-kill-me-three-times
Simon Pegg said:
So it's up to King Daniel Into Darkness to reveal his conflicting source.
I doubt it. Assuming influence simply because one project precedes another is a logical error.
There's no conflict here. Familiarity with a script or story doesn't mean one has read it. One of the assignments I had started out with having the already-developed story described to me with commentary about what the producers disliked about it. We were then sent off to develop a new story outline without having actually read the original - because they didn't want us to. I certainly had an opinion about it, though.
Also, I realized after my post that it appears King Daniel Into Darkness's quote was from the OP of the thread, saying it was an "impression," and probably was speculation that came before Pegg made his own statement. i.e., an assumption.
Though I would find splitting hairs over a verbal description and commentary about the story and actually reading the script specious or disingenuous. A more complete answer might be, "I never read the script, but I was told a brief synopsis and critique."
Though I would find splitting hairs over a verbal description and commentary about the story and actually reading the script specious or disingenuous. A more complete answer might be, "I never read the script, but I was told a brief synopsis and critique."
What exactly do you mean?
Ol' Scratch has high hopes for the new movie because King Daniel Into Darkness said Pegg and Burk weren't fond of the script. Ol' Scratch assigns some blame to the former staff for "lying blatantly [sic]" about Kahn in STID. The irony comes from Ol' Scratch's faith in the absense of liars when it was only Pegg who blatantly lied about Khan. The others were coy, but not liars.
I'm even more confused. Who lied and about what did they lie?
I don't know if it's worth rehashing here. Do a Google search for "Pegg lies about Khan." But I'll repeat that I liked Pegg just a little bit more after lying to people who wanted the movie spoiled. The rest of the production staff (except for the anonymous inside informant) were simply coy and evasive about the whole thing when they were asked about Khan.
Here's one such Goggle hit for you:
http://www.slashfilm.com/simon-pegg-star-trek-2-villain-khan/
How does that particular incident relate to the script of Star Trek 3?
Not really, but I can't seem to untangle all the inside baseball stuff you all are talking about.
Pegg is writing the script, and he isn't using any of Orci's material, and in my book that's a good thing.
Pegg is writing the script, and he isn't using any of Orci's material, and in my book that's a good thing.
No conflicting source, mine was just speculation based upon what I posted in the OP, weeks before Pegg said he'd never read Orci's script.
http://trekmovie.com/2014/08/11/pegg-it-makes-perfect-sense-for-orci-to-direct-next-star-trek/
Interesting. I think no-one denies that Orci has a lot of Trek knowledge, and Pegg seems to personally like the guy. But the way the studio not only rejected Orci's script but offered the writing gig to someone else indicates there was some serious problem with Orci's sequel proposal.
BTW, when we talk about Orci's script, I'm assuming it was not a full script but a detailed "treatment". A pro wouldn't write an actual script without a greenlight first.
Yeah, I corrected my post to suggest that two posts later in the thread.
And about soundtrack? Will Brian Tyler compose the score for ST3? There was a rumor about it. Tyler is more dynamic than Giacchino. He created the score for Fast and Furious 5 with Lin.
With this new team, from writer to director and crew, something will change. I believe we will have a Star Trek a little different from what we have seen with Abrams.
With this new team, from writer to director and crew, something will change. I believe we will have a Star Trek a little different from what we have seen with Abrams.
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That's a dead-end argument, because very few, people can judge the merits of Orci's script because very few people have seen Orci's script (or story outline).
So any judgment or opinon on the merit's of Ocri's script and/or story outline are based on a person's subjective opinion on the quality of Orci's writing and ideas.
What some people seem to not consider is that there were two other writers working with Orci and it's those two who probably wrote the script for the most part, with Orci helping them.
I also get the impression that Orci gave up. I find it hard to believe that Paramount wouldn't give a second chance to the guy they had trusted with two movies (that are pretty successful). Probably there were creative differences from both sides and Orci decided he couldn't write the movie that the studio was asking him to make.
Neverthless, no matter what Simon is saying I can bet that Paramount doesn't want a 'trek' movie and they don't want another gritty movie like the first two either.
Everything I want is that they respect the integrity of the characters and the dynamics established by the first two movies (kirk/spock is a given. I mean Spock/Uhura, Kirk/Bones and the friendship between uhura and kirk)
I don't want Spock to get reduced to comic relief and a caricature of Nimoy Spock who keeps repeating 'logical' and 'fascinating' and is cold and robotic for the sake of being the stereotype of how non trek fans (and at times, trek fans too) think vulcans and aliens are. I don't want to feel pity for Quinto because the potential of his character got wasted and he suddenly has to play another dude with pointy ears.
I don't want him to be just the weirdy nerdy friend of hero and sidekick whose personal arc and character development from the previous movies is ignored. The same goes for the other characters.
I worry that the heart of these writers is not into the story and the characters will get treated as an afterthought because they care about other things more.
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The rest of your post was interesting, but this part gave me pause. I am wondering what about Pegg and Jung (or Jung and Pegg) makes you worried
To me, the essence of Trek is the characters, and Pegg has demonstrated a sensitivity to the fact that these characters have a life of their own, both in the original iteration and in Abrams films. I think there is a greater awareness than is given credit for.
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I worry about that because from Pegg's last interviews it seems that they are writing a script around the requests the studio and director make, including what seem to be finding ways to shoehorn stuff. He admitted that he has never worked like that before because other times he had a story and wrote it.
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