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Star Trek/Green Lantern Corp team-up(IDW/DC)

TREK_GOD_1 said:
BillJ said:
TREK_GOD_1 said:
Quoted for truth, but hacks being hacks cannot stop themselves from hack concepts.
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Because writers should never step outside the box. That way we can accuse them of being uncreative shills.

I've watched the crew of the Enterprise explore countless strange new worlds, battle the Klingons, battle the Romulans and so on in countless episodes, novels, comics and video games. I think crossovers with other universes is ultimately good for my enjoyment and good for the overall brand.
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ST and superheroes are different animals, catering to equally different plotting demands. This is as silly and out of place as the 1970s, when Marvel shoehorned a bunch of horror characters (Tomb of Dracula, Werewolf By Night, The Monster of Frankenstein, etc.) into their superhero universe with less than spectacular, or even sensible results.
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How was that any different than Sgt Fury being part of the "superhero" universe? Or Doctor Strange for that matter. Horror has been a part of superhero comics since superheroes began.With vampires, werewolves and mad scientists among the earliest villains. Even Marvel's western, teen and romance titles/characters are part of the "superhero" universe.
 
Don't forget the Guardians of the Galaxy. I don't think any of them would really even qualify as superheroes.
 
Marvel's Tomb of Dracula I think worked OK, and of course, led to the Blade character. It also had sort of a lasting effect on the X-men, with Storm and later Jubilee getting involved with him.


Also good point about the Romance comics. 40's romance comic character Patsy Walker still appears in the MU as the superhero Hellcat.
 
Dennis said:
JD said:
TREK_GOD_1 said:
Quoted for truth, but hacks being hacks cannot stop themselves from hack concepts.
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I have to disagree too. I actually compliment them for being willing to actually take chances and do different stuff like this.
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Really. I mean, who cares if someone doesn't like the comic? They can buy a different one.
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But comics are different, you make the purchase first, read it, and then say "well, that was a waste of money".

Like with the previous crossovers. At least now I know not to make the purchase. But the younger version of me that didn't know any better? He'd be tricked into this for sure!
 
M'rk said:
But comics are different, you make the purchase first, read it, and then say "well, that was a waste of money".
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With seven-page previews and reviews seemingly moments after they release, you should have a good idea whether a comic is worth your money before you buy it.
 
BillJ said:
With seven-page previews and reviews seemingly moments after they release, you should have a good idea whether a comic is worth your money before you buy it.
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So you've never seen a bad movie with a good trailer before? It's the same thing.

And reviews come in AFTER the books are ordered or bought in many cases.
 
a) A comic is 22 pages. That is not a trailer or preview that is equivalent to the first third of the movie.

b) Many reviewers get advanced copies so the reviews actually get posted once your embargo date passes so there is actually no major real time delay.
 
Hound of UIster said:
a) A comic is 22 pages. That is not a trailer or preview that is equivalent to the first third of the movie.

b) Many reviewers get advanced copies so the reviews actually get posted once your embargo date passes so there is actually no major real time delay.
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I've never seen a review done a month in advance of shipping when my order has already been placed, especially when most of us at my shop order through Previews a few months in advance. Most previews I find are generally from a week before as well. I go to a small shop that encourages pre-orders with Previews magazine for obvious reasons: To ensure everyone gets what they want and that there isn't a lot of excess books left on the shelf.

But I see I'm just in the minority. Most people, it appears, read a third of the book already before making their purchase it seems.
 
Hound of UIster said:
Most people I know actually read the whole comic in the store before buying.
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Yup. And the owner of my LCS understands that. Sometimes I buy it and sometimes I don't. I just need to know more before I pluck down $4. If I hadn't read Ant-Man 1 in the store, I never would have put it on my pull list.
 
M'rk said:
Hound of UIster said:
a) A comic is 22 pages. That is not a trailer or preview that is equivalent to the first third of the movie.

b) Many reviewers get advanced copies so the reviews actually get posted once your embargo date passes so there is actually no major real time delay.
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I've never seen a review done a month in advance of shipping when my order has already been placed, especially when most of us at my shop order through Previews a few months in advance. Most previews I find are generally from a week before as well. I go to a small shop that encourages pre-orders with Previews magazine for obvious reasons: To ensure everyone gets what they want and that there isn't a lot of excess books left on the shelf.

But I see I'm just in the minority. Most people, it appears, read a third of the book already before making their purchase it seems.
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You don't really have to pre-order in this day and age. Too many ways to buy the books a day or two after release if a bad purchase every now and then bothers you that badly.
 
^I was about to say that. Now with digital comics you can take your time even more than you could when paper was the only option. Hell if you go digital you can still buy Action Comics #1, and Detective Comics #27.
 
JD said:
^I was about to say that. Now with digital comics you can take your time even more than you could when paper was the only option. Hell if you go digital you can still buy Action Comics #1, and Detective Comics #27.
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You can also read a few pages of just about any comic on Comixology before you buy it.
 
Nerys Myk said:
TREK_GOD_1 said:
BillJ said:
Because writers should never step outside the box. That way we can accuse them of being uncreative shills.

I've watched the crew of the Enterprise explore countless strange new worlds, battle the Klingons, battle the Romulans and so on in countless episodes, novels, comics and video games. I think crossovers with other universes is ultimately good for my enjoyment and good for the overall brand.
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ST and superheroes are different animals, catering to equally different plotting demands. This is as silly and out of place as the 1970s, when Marvel shoehorned a bunch of horror characters (Tomb of Dracula, Werewolf By Night, The Monster of Frankenstein, etc.) into their superhero universe with less than spectacular, or even sensible results.
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How was that any different than Sgt Fury being part of the "superhero" universe? Or Doctor Strange for that matter. Horror has been a part of superhero comics since superheroes began.With vampires, werewolves and mad scientists among the earliest villains. Even Marvel's western, teen and romance titles/characters are part of the "superhero" universe.
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Fury was created as a character serving in WW2--which (a generation earlier) was also occupied by Timely's wartime superheroes designed to fit into the sensibilities of the period. None were alien to the other.

On the other hand, Star Trek was born from different motivations having nothing to do with the kind of storytelling native to superheroes. Fury and his Commandos not only fought Nazis, but more fantastic elements that were still common--even expected in Marvel stories. However, all things do not mix well: in addition to the misguided Marvel/horror comics from the 70s, look no further than the ST/X-Men crossover--it read like kids pulling parts from one type of action figure, and forcing on one of another scale: doing it just because you can, but it does not work.
 
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