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Sofia Boutella added to ST3 Cast

aint Alice eve coming back?

I don't think she's been officially confirmed as returning yet, though her status as a member of the crew at the end of STID and connection to Kirk would suggest she is. But I'm not sure why the announcement about Boutella would have any bearing on Eve's presence in the film or not. It's not as if they have to get rid of one woman to add another.

IMDB has nothing (their info is notoriously unreliable before a film comes out, though, so it wouldn't be a guarantee of anything, regardless), and I couldn't find any articles confirming her return in a quick search, but she's likely coming back. I'm sure they had her sign a multi-picture contract.
 
Plus it'd be weird to make such a big deal of introducing Carol Marcus and making her part of the crew, only to then immediately write her out of the next movie. Anyway, this is cool casting. I can already picture a scene where she kicks Kirk's ass (seriously, he gets his ass beat in every movie now it seems). My first thought was that she'd play a Klingon, but I could also see her playing a Romulan, or Vulcan, etc.
 
I loved Sofia Boutella in Street Dancer a few years back.

Just because Alice Eve (probably) signed a multi-picture contract, does not mean the producers have to use her, they only have to call her and make a offer if they use the character again.

There is the consideration of just how many "main " characters the movie can have, before Sulu and Chekov get reduced to zero.

Also, nothing says that Sofia Boutella is going to have a major role.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHWSBrLiaQA[/yt]

:)
 
calling it a 'lead' role seems to suggest it's big, though

as for Alice Eve, she doesn't seem to have signed a contract for more movies
in fact, after stid she said she wants to be in the next movie but she doesn't want to say she will be in it too soon, implying that her presence is not a given.
I think she has a contract more similar to Bruce Greenwood's one, but definitely not a 'option for 3 movies at least' kind of contract that the main 7 actors signed.


It would be weird if she's not there.
Also, it would feel like this is the second time Carol's character is dropped from a sequel.
 
Just because Alice Eve (probably) signed a multi-picture contract, does not mean the producers have to use her, they only have to call her and make a offer if they use the character again.

Which is why I never said that it means they have to use her. I just said that she's likely contracted in case they do want to use her again, which given the outcome of the last film, seems probable.
 
A Starfleet captain and Starfleet is the villain. Make it so!

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Just because Alice Eve (probably) signed a multi-picture contract, does not mean the producers have to use her, they only have to call her and make a offer if they use the character again.

Which is why I never said that it means they have to use her. I just said that she's likely contracted in case they do want to use her again, which given the outcome of the last film, seems probable.

Why did they "drop" her anyway? Given how big they made of her in TWOK, her complete lack of appearances in any of the other films really stuck out as weird.
 
Why did they "drop" her anyway? Given how big they made of her in TWOK, her complete lack of appearances in any of the other films really stuck out as weird.

For budgetary reasons and because Bennett felt her character was extraneous to the story.

Carol Marcus was omitted from Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, because Harve Bennett decided not to use her in the story, as a cut-back to that film's budget. (Trek: The Unauthorized Story of the Movies, 3rd ed., p. 87) Though Bennett originally included Carol in the story outline for the movie (later saying, "I thought it might be fun to have her relating to David and have something going with Saavik"), he subsequently deemed the character extraneous to the story and had some difficulties with how to logically account for her having known about David Marcus using unstable protomatter in the Project Genesis matrix. Thus, Bennett not only excised Carol from the third film but also imagined that she had no knowledge of her son's use of protomatter in the matrix. (The Making of the Trek Films, 3rd ed., p. 46)

The exclusion of Carol Marcus from Star Trek III was initially very difficult for Bibi Besch to accept. (The Making of the Trek Films, 3rd ed., p. 46) She couldn't understand why the character wasn't even in the movie's script when she first read it. (Starlog, issue #153, p. 55)

According to Harve Bennett, Bibi Besch sent a letter of acceptance to him once she viewed Star Trek III, shortly after its release. Bennett stated about the message, "It said, 'I've seen the picture. Now I understand. You were right. I hope you can find a place for me in one of the other films.'" (The Making of the Trek Films, 3rd ed., p. 46)

Comments made by Bibi Besch, several years after Star Trek III was released, seem to suggest that she remained or returned to feeling frustrated about not having been in that film. She said, "I feel disappointed that I never got a chance to complete my relationship with Jim Kirk vis-a-vis the death of our son [....] It would have been nice to have been able to mourn with the father, Kirk; there was nothing with them together [in the film], and that's too bad." On the other hand, she did admit to subscribing to one theory about her role's exclusion from the third film, remarking, "My sense about it was that they need to keep Captain Kirk unencumbered in any way [...] [because] it's part of the Kirk mythology that he be the Lone Ranger out there, by himself, battling the elements." (Starlog, issue #153, pp. 53 & 55)


http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Carol_Marcus

Initially, Besch found the exclusion of Carol Marcus from Star Trek III: The Search for Spock very difficult to accept. Being so upset that she cried, Besch at first suspected the omission was actually a rejection of her acting talent, carried out because she had done something wrong. After the film was released, however, she sent a letter of acknowledgment to Executive Producer Harve Bennett, who later recalled of the message, "It said, 'I've seen the picture. Now I understand. You were right. I hope you can find a place for me in one of the other films.'" (The Making of the Trek Films, 3rd ed., p. 46)

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Bibi_Besch
 
In all honesty, what would she have done in the follow on movies?

Carol could have completely replaced David (thereby removing the character of David) and realistically it would have been her as the Genesis team leader (and not David) who would have made the decision to employ protomatter.

TPTB never went anywhere with the supposed romance between David and Saavik. And Carol's knife death by the Klingon soldier would have likely of had more impact on the audience than David's. A middle aged woman verses a young man.

:)
 
Well David's death was completely mishandled in that movie (only Shatner's reaction actually worked). So with that setup, it would have still failed regardless of who it was in that role.
 
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